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Graveyards in Varazze

Postby Pisarello » 13 Nov 2008, 22:43

Hi, my sister visited Varazze, Genoa this year looking for more information on our ancesters and when she went to the graveyards, there were only fairly modern headstones. She was unable to find out where records were kept. Is there anyone out there that could tell me where they are kept?
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby PeterTimber » 13 Nov 2008, 23:28

They are usually maintained inthe Uffico di Stato Civile in Varazze. Go to www.nonsolocap.it and put in the name on top and click Cerca and the following page click Varazze in for the website for the town and the website for Varazze in on the right side midway down, It is in Italian and I hope you can understand some if not all.

If you wish death certificates youneed fullnames and year of birth (or approximate). if youneed any other documents you can eitehr write to the Uffico di Stato Civile with the address in the website for the town in Italian. Go to www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwisdom/Da ... tters.html =Peter=
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby Pisarello » 15 Nov 2008, 23:04

Hi Peter, thankyou for your help. I did what you said and put in the name and up came 'la ricerca di pisarello non ha prodotto risultat'. I don't speak Italian but I guessed it said that there were no results for that name. I then put in another four possible spellings and nothing came up.
Am I doing somethin wrong or is there another way I can go.
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby PeterTimber » 16 Nov 2008, 03:36

I do not understand where you put in the name Pisarello?? There should be a formletter to the Uffico di Stato Civile, in Italian requesting a deathcertificate and mail it to
Uffico di Stato Civile
Comune di Varazze 17019,
Viale Nazione Unite 5
17019 Varazze, (SV), Italy

You should put in her full name and date of death or year of death or approximate year of death and it might be wise to include a $5.00 in an enclosed envelope with your return address since the clerks research as an end of day duty and are poorlyt paid. Please keep me posted. =Peter=
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby liviomoreno » 16 Nov 2008, 07:50

Ufficio di Stato Civile
Comune di Varazze
Viale Nazione Unite 5
17019 Varazze (SV)
Italy
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby PeterTimber » 16 Nov 2008, 15:31

Dear Livio "Ci vuole il vento in chiesa...." delle volte sei troppo stretto con menon ti pare? =Peter=
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby johnnyonthespot » 16 Nov 2008, 17:20

Pisarello wrote:Hi, my sister visited Varazze, Genoa this year looking for more information on our ancesters and when she went to the graveyards, there were only fairly modern headstones. She was unable to find out where records were kept. Is there anyone out there that could tell me where they are kept?
Tricia :wink:


Someone more knowledgeable is going to have to help me out on this one, but my understanding is that there is a very good reason why your sister found only "fairly modern headstones."

For the most part, Italian cemeteries are owned by the local church and burial plots are not sold, but rented!. The deceased's remains stay in the plot for a fixed number of years; beyond that, someone (presumably surviving family members) ponies up additional rent fees, or the remains are exumed and moved to a communal burial chamber/crypt containing the bones of hundreds or thousands of other souls.

Apparently, only the very wealthy amongst Italians can afford a "permanent" burial site as is traditional in, for example, the US.
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby ricbru » 16 Nov 2008, 17:24

Pisarello wrote:Hi, my sister visited Varazze, Genoa this year looking for more information on our ancesters and when she went to the graveyards, there were only fairly modern headstones. She was unable to find out where records were kept. Is there anyone out there that could tell me where they are kept?
Tricia :wink:


Dear Tricia, if your sister found new tombstone, it means that the cemetery was renewed, and the old graveside don't exist anymore, and all the bones of different cuffins are in a common ossuary of the cemetery.
If you want to know about the records, you can request (knowing the name of your ancestor and date of death) contacting the guardian of the cemetery (who usually keeps the records at the entry of the cemetery)

Comune Di Varazze
Custode Cimitero
Via Maestri Del Lavoro, 56
17019 Varazze (SV) - Italy
phone :019 97037

or
Ufficio Servizi Cimiteriali
Viale Nazioni Unite, 5
CAP 17019
Varazze (SV)
Italy

I hope it helps
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby ricbru » 16 Nov 2008, 17:34

johnnyonthespot wrote:For the most part, Italian cemeteries are owned by the local church
this information you gave is wrong, the most italian cemetery belong to the municipality, the cemetery are run by the mayor of Town Hall

and burial plots are not sold, but rented!. The deceased's remains stay in the plot for a fixed number of years; beyond that, someone (presumably surviving family members) ponies up additional rent fees, or the remains are exumed and moved to a communal burial chamber/crypt containing the bones of hundreds or thousands of other souls.
this information is right

Apparently, only the very wealthy amongst Italians can afford a "permanent" burial site as is traditional in, for example, the US.


most of the plots have a rent of 19 or 99 years (like in Trapani) or 30 years (like in Florence), and they are renewable. Renting a plot in Trapani goes from 1000 euros to 5000 euros

I hope it helps
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby johnnyonthespot » 16 Nov 2008, 17:46

ricbru wrote:I hope it helps
bye Riccardo


It does help, and I am sorry for the error regarding ownership of the cemeteries.
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby ricbru » 16 Nov 2008, 17:48

Johnny,
don't be sorry, we are here to help, and we try to give best infos for who want to find the infos about ancestors
I appreciated it
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby Pisarello » 16 Nov 2008, 22:01

Hi, Thanks for all that info guys, I am certainly learning by my mistakes.
I will take all your advice on what to do next.
I think one of my main problems will be that I lack exact dates and headstones would have helped.
No doubt, I will be back with more questions.
Thankyou all,
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Re: Graveyards in Varazze

Postby Pisarello » 18 Nov 2008, 23:54

I have now been given a exact date.
yipee!
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