Gentile to Palumbo

[matttk]

Yes, there is a connection!! I have Guiseppina (Josie) Palumbo as being born in September of 1893 but it could be 1892 - I have only the census record and those always have approximations or errors.

I have a total of 12 siblings but some died, so 10 could easily have been correct at some point. I don't know who she married but she was born in Ohio and her whole family moved to Toronto (rumours about mob threats). They worked in the fruit business in Chicago and Toronto and perhaps even in Italy.

Her parents were Antonino Gentile and Maria Speciale. I have that they moved to Canada sometime in 1918 but it may be off. They had another child in Chicago in November of 1916, though, so they were living in Chicago then. It's certainly possible that different family members moved at different times. My great grandfather was actually the last to move, since he stayed behind to marry my great grandmother (his parents weren't pleased about that).

Ignazio Naso was the husband of Augustine (Tinie) Palumbo. The Naso family was friends with the Palumbo family and lived in the same apartment building at some point.

I'd love to compare notes if you want to contact me at m a t t t k @ g m a i l . c o m (obviously without the spaces). If you use Geni, you can easily see the stuff I've worked on so far.

If I've calculated correctly, you are my third cousin once removed. For reference, Josie is my great great aunt.

[Rebeca.Franze]

Thanks alot Laura!
You are right about Santo and Josie already living in Canada by 1916...
I found out they had a baby in Chicago (Cosimo Franze) but the baby died young, and they came to Canada and had my great grandfather in 1914 (In Canada) and they named that baby Cosimo also..
I havent had any luck with finding records of when they orginially left Chicago for Toronto.

Anyway, Thanks again!

[pink67]

I found out they had a baby in Chicago (Cosimo Franze) but the baby died young, and they came to Canada and had my great grandfather in 1914 (In Canada) and they named that baby Cosimo also..

Rebeca,

I found also the death certificate of the first baby of Santo and Josephine...

this is the birth:

Illinois, Cook County Birth Certificates, 1878-1922
for Cosimo Franze
Name Cosimo Franze
Birth date 24 Apr 1911
Gender Male
Race or color (expanded) White
Father name Santo Franze
Age of father 26
Mother name Jessie Palumbo
Mother age 18
Film number 1288210
Digital GS number 4298170
Image number 00065
Reference number 4864

image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqczG1r

and this is the death certificate:

Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1922

Name: Cosino Franze
Death date: 16 January 1913
Death place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: male
Death age: 1y 8m 21d
Birth date: 25 april 1911
Father: Santo Frange
Father's birth place: Italy
Mother's name: Josephine Palu...a
Mother's birth place: Italy
Address: 721 West 25 place, Ward 4-11
Residence: Chicago
Cemetery: Mount Olivet
Burial date: 17 january 1913

Image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqgxFer

the little baby died for diphtheria....

Considering the address, I believe this other death certificate may have been of Santo Franze's Father:

Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1922

Name: Cosimo Frauze
Death date: 4 July 1912
Death place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: male
Death age: 64y
Estimated Birth year: 1848
Birth place: Italy
Father: Santo Franze
Father's birth place: Italy
Mother's name: Tynazia Scaletto (correct first name Ignazia)
Mother's birth place: Italy
Occupation: Labourer
Address: 721 West 25 place
Residence: Chicago
Cemetery: Mount Olivet
Burial date: 7 july 1912

Image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqgyzBJ

Rebeca,
if you check this site:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tml#p=home

You'll find many records (italians records from Termini Imerese) for the Franzè (I believe this is the correct lastname) especially for the family of Santo Franzè and Ignazia Scaletto (possible Santo Franze's grandparents )

I'm glad you have been able to establish a relationship between your ancestors and the Palumbo of this research!

My great great grandmother was Guiseppa (Josephine/Josie) Palumbo.

Josephine/ Giuseppa is listed in the 1910 federal census living with her parents:

1910 United States Federal Census
about Tony Palumbo
Name: Tony Palumbo
Age in 1910: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Mary Palumbo
Home in 1910: Chicago Ward 4, Cook, Illinois
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1891
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Tony Palumbo 45 head, born in IT
Mary Palumbo 37 wife, born in IT
Sam Palumbo 18 son, born in IT
Josie Palumbo 47 (age 17 on the manifest), daughter, born in OH
Joe Palumbo 13 son, born in IL
Mattie Palumbo 11 daughter, born in IL
Magle Palumbo 7 daughter, born in IL
Tony Palumbo 5 son, born in IL
Phillip Palumbo 3 son, born in IL
Florence Palumbo 1 daughter, born in IL

address: 631 West 25 Place

image, from Ancestry.com:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqgBsH9

and the 1900 from this post:

Here you go!

1900 United States Federal Census
about Antonio Parum
Name: Antonio Parum
[Antonino Parnon]
Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 5, Cook, Illinois
Age: 35
Birth Date: Jun 1864
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1891
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Maria
Marriage year: 1890
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 10
Residence : Chicago City, Cook, Illinois
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Antonio Parum 35 head, born in IT, year of immigr. 1891, married since 10 years, Naturalized
Maria Parum 27 wife, born in IT, year of immigr. 1893
Salvatore Parum 8 son, born in IT, year of immigr. 1893
Guiseppino Parum 7 daughter, born in Columbus- OH
Agostina Parum 4 daughter, born in OH
Guiseppo Parum 2 son, born in ILL
Ignacio Parum 1 son, born in ILL

address was 2038 Archer Avenue.

image:
http://img525.imageshack.us/i/palumbo1900.jpg/

Laura

[pink67]

I havent had any luck with finding records of when they orginially left Chicago for Toronto.

the last trace in Chicago is the burial date for their first son Cosimo, 17 january 1913, being your great-grandfather born on 1914 they may have moved from Chicago just between January 1913 and your great-grandfather's birth date....

Laura