gizzi family, new york

[pink67]

I apologize.... I forgot ... I found all the previous records on the site Ancestry.com....

No luck with Pacelli/a...
Even if I noticed that his wife at the time of her arrival stated she was joining her husband Pacelli in Philadelphia...it was 1901..

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0004

From the 1910 census looke like they moved to NJ very soon, so it's possible he asked for the Naturalization in NJ....
However, the Naturalization process was pretty a long process...

from ancestry.com:

The Naturalization Process:

The first responsibility for an immigrant wishing to become an official U.S. citizen was to complete a Declaration of Intention. These papers are sometimes called First Papers since they are the first forms to be completed in the naturalization process. Generally these papers were filled out fairly soon after an immigrant's arrival in America. Due to some laws, there were times when certain groups of individuals were exempt from this step.

After the immigrant had completed these papers and met the residency requirement (which was usually five years), the individual was able to submit his Petition for Naturalization. Petitions are also known as Second or Final Papers because they are the second and final set of papers completed in the naturalization process.

Immigrants also took a naturalization oath or oath of allegiance. A copy of this oath is often filed with the immigrant's first or second papers. After an immigrant had completed all citizenship requirements he was issued a certificate of naturalization. Many of these documents can be found in the records of the court in which they were created.

Other naturalization records include naturalization certificate stubs and certificates of arrival. See further below for a description of these two documents.

Many immigrants took out their First Papers as soon as they arrived in America, in whatever county and state that may have been. Later they would file their Second Papers in the location in which they took up residence.

Looks like strange to me he stated he was naturalized in 1901/1902 if he did emigrate for the second time in 1900....
Maybe he began the process during his first stay in the U.S.?

Laura

[dragoni]

this part of the puzzle has proven to be quite problematic. all i have to go on is family lore and conflicting census record information. the lore says he came here in the 1880s to work on the panama canal and the railroad out west, came home to get a bride and then headed back in 1900. i have tracked him fairly well from 1900 forward. the census says - 1910 he was first here in 1886 and naturalized , 1920 says he was first here in 1899 and naturalized in 1902. i must add that he was illiterate so he would have had assistance to complete any paperwork.

i wrote all local courthouses in the area he was from 1900-1914 and they had no records. i wrote ny they had no record. i wrote to the us site and got no help as it was prior to 1906.

i can only find one ship record which comes close to his age and home port for the period prior to 1900 but can't be sure as there is little other information on the form. his 1900 trip paperwork says he was here before from 1888-1899. so it appears possible that he could have come prior to his second and final trip but i can't prove that as a fact or know where he may have been during this stay given the 1890 census problems.

it looks like there are three possibilities with respect to the naturalization matter which i also want to resolve to get italian citizenship. one - he was not naturalized but just claimed to be on the census on 2 occasions. two - he was natualized sometime and somewhere but i can never find that information. three - he was naturalized and i find the documents.

after a couple of years of searching i believe the most likely outcomes are 1 or 2.

tommaso