SS Gallia (1904)

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SS Gallia (1904)

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I am trying to find an image of SS Gallia that operated between Naples and New York in 1904.

PLEASE NOTE, that this is not the SS Gallia built in 1913 in France and sank in 1916, not the SS Gallia built in 1878 for Cunard Line and scrapped in 1900. Most images of SS Gallia in the web are about those two ships.
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GALLIA / DON ALVARO DE BAZAN 1878
Built in 1878 by J&G.Thomson, Glasgow for the Cunard SS Co, she was a 4,809 gross ton ship, length 430.1ft x beam 44.6ft, one funnel, three masts (barque rigged for sail), iron construction, single screw and a speed of 13 knots. There was accommodation for 300-1st and 1,200-3rd class passengers. Launched on 12th Nov.1878, she sailed from Liverpool on her maiden voyage to Queenstown (Cobh) and New York on 5th Apr.1879. On 20th Apr.1886 she started her first Liverpool - Queenstown - Boston sailing and commenced her last voyage on this service on 5th Sep.1895. Chartered to Cia Trasatlantica of Spain in 1896 she was temporarily renamed DON ALVARO DE BAZAN and used for transporting troops to deal with the Cuban Rebellion. Later the same year she reverted to her previous name of GALLIA and resumed Liverpool - Queenstown - Boston voyages on 21st May 1896. Her last sailing on this route started 7th Oct.1897 and she was then sold to the Beaver Line. Her first voyage for these owners started 20th Nov.1897 when she left Liverpool for Halifax and St John NB, and her last on 18th Mar.1899 from Liverpool to St John NB. In 1899 she went to the Allan Line and commenced her first sailing from Liverpool for Quebec and Montreal on 4th May 1899 but went aground near Sorel Point, Quebec, was salvaged and scrapped at Cherbourg the following year. [North Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P.Bonsor, vol.1,p.152]
https://www.theshipslist.com/ships/desc ... ipsG.shtml

here some pictures, I don't know if abt old Gallia
http://www.clydeships.co.uk/view.php?ref=22352

http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=gallk
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=galli
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I have Petition for Naturalization where my great-grandfather lists a ship named the "Gallia" as how we got from Naples to New York in March of 1903. This may line up with your same ship, but the only ones I can find online were either scrapped in 1900 or built in 1913.

The only other thing I can think of is that looking online romans sometimes called France Gaul (Gallia) or Galli, could there be a ship that has a french name around this time that they actually were on????
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The discrepancy you're encountering with online records of ships named "Gallia" could be due to variations in ship names, common for vessels of that era. Additionally, misspelling or misinterpretation of the ship's name could have occurred over time.
Considering the possibility that "Gallia" might be a French reference, it's worth exploring ships with French names or connections around the time of the journey in 1903. The records may not always perfectly align, and there could be variations in the spelling or naming conventions.
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Gallia Fabre Line SEE PHOTO: https://www.theshipslist.com/ships/desc ... ipsC.shtml
CHATEAU YQUEM / GALLIA 1883
Built by Chantiers & Ateliers de la Gironde, Bordeaux (engines by Schneider & Cie, Creuzot) in 1883, she was a 4,035 gross ton ship, length 386.5ft x beam 41ft, one funnel, three masts, iron construction, single screw and a speed of 12 knots. There was passenger accommodation for 50-1st and 1,200-3rd class. Launched on 17/11/1883 as the CHATEU YQUEM for the French owned Bordeaux Line, she sailed from Bordeaux on her maiden voyage to New York on 30/6/1884. On 27/2/1886 she started a single Palermo - Naples - Valencia - New York round voyage and on 10/5/1887 started a single round voyage from Bordeaux to Naples and New York. Her last Bordeaux - New York sailing started on 6/9/1887 and her last Naples - New York on 21/4/1888. In the Autumn of 1888 she was chartered to Compagnie Generale Transatlantique (French Line) and sailed between Bordeaux, Havana and Vera Cruz. Damaged in collision with the Spanish ship CRISTOBAL COLON at Havana on 28/1/1889, and on 3/11/1891 was offered for sale at Bordeaux but found no buyer. Chartered to the French government in April 1895 and used as a transport for the Madagascar Expedition, and on 9/10/1896 sailed from Havre to New York. Sold to the Fabre Line in 1896, she commenced her first Marseilles - Genoa - Leghorn - Naples - New York voyage on 29/3/1897. On 31/12/1897 she stranded at La Seyne, was refloated and had an extensive refit. She resumed Marseilles - New York sailings on 21/1/1899 and started her last Marseilles - Naples - New York voyage on 3/6/1900. Renamed GALLIA she resumed Marseilles - Naples - New York sailings on 28/7/1900 and commenced her last Marseilles - New York voyage in December 1909 (arr. NY 15/1/1910). In December 1910 she was sold and scrapped in Italy. [North Atlantic Seaway by N.R.P.Bonsor, vol.3,p.1064]

I had the same problem. I was able to solve it because the ship manifest I was looking at said Fabre Line which distinguished this Gallia from the others.
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Re: SS Gallia (1904)

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I believe that this is the Link to the S.S. Gallia that you are looking for: https://www.dizazzo.org/ss_gallia.htm
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