Italian Dual Citizenship companies

[taxi55]

Hi Folks,

We might need to utilize the services of a company that specializes in dual citizenship due to our family circumstances. We’ve researched companies and wanted to know if anyone has used IDC or ICA. Thoughts based on your experience? Welcome all input.

Much appreciated, enjoy your day.

[MaddalenaNYC]

I started out looking for an agency to help me with Jure Sanguinis and soon discovered that I knew more about my family than they did, even after their initial research.

I’m doing it on my own now. If one can find the US records, that’s the hard part as the US did not keep such impeccable records as the Italians did, getting Apostiles and translations is easy.

As to the Italian, birth, marriage, and death acts. If you know where in Italy these Acts occurred, you might be ok hiring a local Italian attorney to compile same.
My second cousin twice removed has done it on his own and through a female line to boot. A close family friend has also done it on his own. But his was easier; father to grandfather, short line and the family friend speaks Italian.

It takes time.

[cingio674@gmail.com]

Hi there.I'm not sure how to use this site yet, but I am trying to locate anyone that may have been related to our grandfather Amerigo Giovacchini , born 1891 in colognora di campito. Or our grandmother Jane Menarini (which may have been regina) born 1894, also in the colognora di campito area. I don't know how to find their birth records. I would really appreciate some help.

Blessings and thank you, Cindy Giovacchini

[taxi55]

Thanks for the information MaddalenaNYC! We might need to use a service at least to sort out and define if we need to go through the Consulate or the Italian Court due to our line’s path. You make a good point - we all probably know more about our families than these services. And I agree, some of the US/NYC records are not as easy to find as my Italian comune’s records.

I’m hopeful that I am able to find certain US/NYC birth records that have eluded me so far since I will need them for the Dual Citizenship process.

Good luck to you with your own Dual Citizenship!

[mler]

Why don’t you list the line you will be using. We can then define the path.

Example

Ggf born —- naturalized- ———
Gf born (where) date
m born (where) date
You

[taxi55]

Hi mler! It’s been a while!

I had typed a lengthy response and then got logged out before I could send and lost it all. So let’s try this again.

I’m unsure which line would qualify due to contradictory information I read online and the ever-changing challenges being brought to the Italian courts. (Which I might need to do instead of going through a consulate.) I will provide the paternal line below which might not qualify due to 1912, but I’ll leave it up to the experts to let me know.

If this line does not qualify, I can then post other lines that might.


GGF born 1867 (IT). Married GGM 1892 (IT). GGM born 1872 (IT);
GF born (US) 1894.
F born (US)
Me born (US)


Does the “ius soli” only apply to US born minor of an Italian Citizen (GF) if the Italian citizen (GGF) naturalized after 1912? I know it disqualifies a child born in Italy who moved with the parents to the US and the father naturalized before 1912 while that child was stilla minor, but I wasn’t sure about the US born minor.

I’ve read that some are bringing cases to the Italian court for Italian women who lost their citizenship when there husband naturalized. Would this apply to my GGM and GF above? Could he still be considered an Italian citizen if his mother (my GGM) didn’t chose to naturalize?

Sorry I’m not as well versed as others on this board. (I’m reading and always learning.)

Thanks for all your help and guidance!

[Connta]

That's was helpfull !

[sarausa]

The cost of services from both IDC and ICA can vary depending on your specific requirements. You should request a detailed price list and compare between companies to determine the cost that fits your budget.

[pnmcqu08]

Unsuccessful Application: I used Luigi Paiano unsuccessfully to apply for Italian citizenship via my maternal line. My grandmother was born in the US when my great-grandmother was an Italian citizen, but she became an American citizen when my grandmother was still a minor. Luigi advised me that my chances of obtaining Italian citizenship were very good. I was declined in both the lower court and appeals court.

A word of warning: I am not confident that Luigi was upfront with me throughout the process. I started the process in March 2018 and was declined in August 2024. Apparently, unbeknownst to me, in or before 2021 the Italian courts started to reject citizenship applications via the maternal line when the parent became a naturalized citizen while the child was still a minor. This was not communicated to me at that time, nor when my application was first rejected in 2022 at the lower court after when the issue was known. When I confronted Luigi about this, he said nothing is guaranteed and he cannot "forecast" what the court will do.

So a word of warning...it is a time consuming and expensive process. The Italian court is now rejecting at least some applications via the maternal line, advising that minors lose their citizenship by default. Luigi may not tell you this directly, but it appears to be a combination of luck and what judge you get, knowing that the same judge may later change his/her mind. Minors losing citizenship by default should have been communicated to me by Luigi during the process and was not. 6.5 years later and several thousands of dollars later, I found out the hard way.