1948 Case with Luigi Paiano

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Wow! 20 years, I'm nearly three years into my 1948 case with ICA, and all documents are being translated and apostilled. I hope the case is filed in the courts soon. If all goes well this may take 5 to 6 years total, hopefully not 20! I'm a little concerned with the new law regarding court locations outside of Rome, mine is going to be in Catanzaro.

How long did it take you to get an appointment with your nearest Consulate? I'm looking at SF or LA, and some say it takes a long time, but others I spoke with said otherwise.
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afecad wrote: 04 Dec 2023, 17:49 Wow! 20 years, I'm nearly three years into my 1948 case with ICA, and all documents are being translated and apostilled. I hope the case is filed in the courts soon. If all goes well this may take 5 to 6 years total, hopefully not 20! I'm a little concerned with the new law regarding court locations outside of Rome, mine is going to be in Catanzaro.

How long did it take you to get an appointment with your nearest Consulate? I'm looking at SF or LA, and some say it takes a long time, but others I spoke with said otherwise.
It seems that the local courts haven't really introduced any major change in the ratio of favorable to unfavorable rulings. I'm sure you'll be fine.

I've had my Italian passport for 3 months now - the entire process was pretty smooth for me - the worst part without question was correcting my deceased ancestor's birth record with the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
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qualdom wrote: 05 Dec 2023, 21:05

I've had my Italian passport for 3 months now - the entire process was pretty smooth for me - the worst part without question was correcting my deceased ancestor's birth record with the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Congrats! Have you used it, what are your plans? Moving to the EU?

How long did the court case take from being filed to the verdict? Did you have to appeal?
 
My biggest delay, aside from the pandemic, was all the misspellings and corrections. That alone took the bulk of the time, upwards of a nearly a year to get my own birth certificate corrected. ICA has been good but the translations and apostille process has been slow. ICA said a year after filing for the verdict, if an appeal another year thereafter, but these were based on the older rule.
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Hello, we are doing our case through Luigi as well. Our hearing was October 16, 2023 and we still do not have any decision its been over 4 months. Has anyone else waited this long? We were told it would take less than 4 months. It looks like they also switched judges sometime in January. thank you.
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Hello just to mention my excellent experience with Luigi

Send documentation to Luigi 10/11/2021
Case filed in Roma court 15/12/2021
Audience with Judge 24/7/2023
Acooglimiento totale 31/7/2023
Authenticated copy issued by tribunal 25/1/2024
Birth Certificate issued by Comune 5/3/2024

IN general. great communication during all the process. Totally recommendable for 1948 case
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Hi everyone,

I started my case with Luigi last December, but I haven't received any news or updates since then. Does anyone know how long it typically takes to get a date for the hearing?

Here are the key dates for my case:

13/12/2023 ISCRIZIONE RUOLO GENERALE
13/12/2023 ASSEGNAZIONE A SEZIONE
18/12/2023 DESIGNAZIONE GIUDICE

Thanks in advance for any information!
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Unsuccessful Application: I used Luigi Paiano unsuccessfully to apply for Italian citizenship via my maternal line. My grandmother was born in the US when my great-grandmother was an Italian citizen, but she became an American citizen when my grandmother was still a minor. Luigi advised me that my chances of obtaining Italian citizenship were very good. I was declined in both the lower court and appeals court.

A word of warning: I am not confident that Luigi was upfront with me throughout the process. I started the process in March 2018 and was declined in August 2024. Apparently, unbeknownst to me, in or before 2021 the Italian courts started to reject citizenship applications via the maternal line when the parent became a naturalized citizen while the child was still a minor. This was not communicated to me at that time, nor when my application was first rejected in 2022 at the lower court after when the issue was known. When I confronted Luigi about this, he said nothing is guaranteed and he cannot "forecast" what the court will do.

So a word of warning...it is a time consuming and expensive process. The Italian court is now rejecting at least some applications via the maternal line, advising that minors lose their citizenship by default. Luigi may not tell you this directly, but it appears to be a combination of luck and what judge you get, knowing that the same judge may later change his/her mind. Minors losing citizenship by default should have been communicated to me by Luigi during the process and was not. 6.5 years later and several thousands of dollars later, I found out the hard way.
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