Trying to find how my grandfather was connected to his cousin

[Kaylie]

My grandfather, Isidoro Vaccarino, born in Riposto, Sicilia in 7/1877, immigrated to the US and died 3/10/1947 in Brooklyn, NY, was a cousin to Carmelo Vaccarino (11/11/1881-3/28/1971), who immigrated to Baltimore, MD. Carmelo's spouse was Rosa Greco and they had a daughter, Frances. Carmelo's parents were Giuseppe Vaccarino and Francesca Barbagallo. As a young child my my family visited Carmelo and his family and I was always told that they were our cousins. I have searched Antenati and Familysearch and have come up empty. I am very interested in finding out how close we are. Was my grandfather' father a brother to Carmelo's side of the family? How can I find out the relationship between the two Vaccarino families? Can you assist me? Please let me know. I would be very grateful for your help. Thank you.

[Tessa78]

Here is the birth act of your Grandfather, Isidoro Vaccarino, in Riposto on 17 July 1877. (#199)

He was the son of Pasquale Vaccarino, 23, and his wife, Nunzia Lisi, 26.
There is a notation in the margin stating that he married with Marianna Monforte, daughter of Salvatore, on 5 January 1910 in Riposto

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 4.jpg.html

I searched the births from 1874 through 1881 in
Riposto, and only found 2 other births to surname Vaccarino - both with the same parents as Isidoro.

Leonarda Vaccarino - born 1880 (#24)
Salvatore Vaccarino - born 1881 (#132)

Here is the US Passport Application for Isidoro's brother Salvatore, a seaman, dated June 1923.
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/11 ... _2307-0340

T.

[Tessa78]

My grandfather, Isidoro Vaccarino, born in Riposto, Sicilia in 7/1877, immigrated to the US and died 3/10/1947 in Brooklyn, NY, was a cousin to Carmelo Vaccarino (11/11/1881-3/28/1971), who immigrated to Baltimore, MD. Carmelo's spouse was Rosa Greco and they had a daughter, Frances. Carmelo's parents were Giuseppe Vaccarino and Francesca Barbagallo. As a young child my my family visited Carmelo and his family and I was always told that they were our cousins. I have searched Antenati and Familysearch and have come up empty. I am very interested in finding out how close we are. Was my grandfather' father a brother to Carmelo's side of the family? How can I find out the relationship between the two Vaccarino families? Can you assist me? Please let me know. I would be very grateful for your help. Thank you.

Carmelo Vaccarino was born in 1891, not 1881...
Here is the link to his birth act - #318 - born 16 November 1891
Notation of marriage to Rosa Greco on 15 November 1919
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

T.

[Kaylie]

Is there any way to find out how my grandfather is related to Carmelo Vaccarino as a cousin. Perhaps there were brothers on both sides of the family which at one point would have made them cousins. I realize they are several times removed (perhaps not that many times) but since there are many other Vaccarinos in the Baltimore area tied to theses Vaccarinos, I would be anxious to know how we all are connected, I would appreciate any assistance you can render or if you can refer me to someone who can help Thank you once again.

[Kaylie]

Is there any way to find out how my grandfather is related to Carmelo Vaccarino as a cousin. Perhaps there were brothers on both sides of the family which at one point would have made them cousins. I realize they are several times removed (perhaps not that many times) but since there are many other Vaccarinos in the Baltimore area tied to theses Vaccarinos, I would be anxious to know how we all are connected, I would appreciate any assistance you can render or if you can refer me to someone who can help Thank you once again.

[rlw254]

Riposto Marriages
27 May 1880 #24
Pasquale Vaccarino, 25, born in Riposto, son of Isidoro Vaccarino and Giuseppa Leotta
Nunzia Lisi, 31, born in Giarre, daughter of Salvatore Lisi and Nicolina Caltabiano
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 7.jpg.html

12 Aug 1883 #51
Giuseppe Vaccarino, 25, born in Riposto, son of Salvatore Vaccarino and Giuseppa Leotta
Francesca Barbagallo, 30, born in Giarre, daughter of Salvatore Barbagallo (deceased) and Giuseppa Fichera
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 2.jpg.html


Riposto Births
19 Feb 1854
Pasquale Vaccarino
Father: Isidoro Vaccarino, 26
Mother: Giuseppa Leotta, 33

16 Jan 1858
Giuseppe Vaccarino
Father: Salvatore Vaccarino, 20
Mother: Giuseppa Leotta, 30


Riposto Marriages
1 Sept 1851
Isidoro Vaccarino, 19, born in Riposto, parents unknown
Giuseppa Leotta, 27, born in Riposto, daughter of Rosario Leotta, 60, and Angela Serafina (?), 56
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 1.jpg.html

I did not find Salvatore Vaccarino's marriage in Riposto on my first pass.

Isidoro Vaccarino's birth in Giarre
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 2.jpg.html

[rlw254]

Other children of Isidoro Vaccarino and Giuseppa Leotta:

21 Aug 1852
Giovanna Vaccarino
Father: Isidoro Vaccarino, 23
Mother: Giuseppa Leotta, 25

1 Oct 1856
Lucia Vaccarino
Father: Isidoro Vaccarino, 27
Mother: Giuseppa Leotta, 27

1 Jan 1860
Rosario Vaccarino
Father: Isidoro Vaccarino, 27
Mother: Giuseppa Leotta, 29

Because of this gap from 1856-1860 I believe that Giuseppe Vaccarino was another son of Isidoro Vaccarino, not Salvatore. Salvatore could be a mistake or an alias/common name. There are no other people with the name Vaccarino in this town because of Isidoro being a proietto, I think this is a safe bet. So Carmelo and your grandfather Isidoro were likely first cousins through their paternal grandparents, Isidoro Vaccarino and Giuseppa Leotta. Although I do find it curious that the only two times "Salvatore" Vaccarino appears are on the records related to Giuseppe Vaccarino. Additionally I find no other births to the couple Salvatore Vaccarino and Giuseppa Leotta.

EDIT: oops I also just realized that on the birth for Giuseppe Vaccarino, "Salvatore" Vaccarino is listed as age 27 not age 20 (the sette was on the next line). So now the ages are a bit closer to what they appear to be on the other records. Too late to edit my first message.

[Italysearcher]

Italians use the word 'cousin' very loosely. If your only reference to their being cousins is on a ship manifest you may need to accept the fact that the relationship may not be precise.

[Kaylie]

To: rlw254: Thank you for all the information you provided me with.. The surname Leotta appears in my mother's family tree. My maternal great grandfather is Mariano Leotta. I have a partial tree sent to me by a Vaccarino living in Baltimore which starts with Giuseppe Vaccarino and Francesca Barbagallo and their 3 children: Isidoro Vaccarino (3/14/1885-10/1975) married to Rosaria Cannizzaro (9/21/1891-8/1986), Giuseppe Vaccarino, and Carmelo Vaccarino (11/11/1891-3/28/1971) married to Rosa Greco (1/20/1896-?). The three children all immigrated from Riposto Sicily to Baltimore Maryland. Is there any way to confirm all of this? And, can I get any additional information for the child Giuseppe Vaccarino, DOB, marriage, children? Thanks once again for all your help.

[rlw254]

Giuseppe Vaccarino's birth was on 16 Jan 1858 and was married to Francesca Barbagallo on 12 Aug 1883, see my first message.

Their children that I found born in Riposto:
Salvatore Vaccarino, born 21 Aug 1886
Carmelo Vaccarino, born 16 Nov 1891 (married 1919)

[rlw254]

Giuseppe Vaccarino's first wife Francesca Barbagallo died 30 Sept 1897. He then married Agata Le Mura 13 Feb 1899 in Giarre. Here his parents are given as Salvatore Vaccarino and Giuseppa Leotta, both living.

Giuseppa Leotta died 8 Nov 1899 in Riposto, listed as wife of Isidoro Vaccarino, living.

Giuseppe Vaccarino died 12 Jan 1905 in Riposto. Here his parents are written as Isidoro Vaccarino, which is crossed out and then the name Salvatore written above it, living, and Giuseppa Leotta, now dead.

Isidoro Vaccarino died 30 Dec 1909, widower of Giuseppa Leotta.

I don't know why Giuseppe insisted on writing his father's name as Salvatore but I think it is most likely that this is the same family.

Isidoro Vaccarino 1832-1909 & Giuseppa Leotta 1824-1899
1. Giovanna Vaccarino 1852-?
2. Pasquale Vaccarino 1854-1901 m. Nunzia Lisi 1849-1900
3. Lucia Vaccarino 1856-?
4. Giuseppe Vaccarino 1858-1905 m1. Francesca Barbagallo m2. Agata Le Mura
5. Rosario Vaccarino 1860-?
6. Salvatore Vaccarino ~1863-? m. Sebastiana Leotta

Pasquale Vaccarino 1854-1901 & Nunzia Lisi 1849-1900
1. Isidoro Vaccarino 17 July 1877
2. Leonarda Vaccarino 24 Jan 1880 - 3 Apr 1880
3. Salvatore Vaccarino 23 June 1881
4. Giuseppa Vaccarino 7 Jan 1883 - 6 Feb 1883
5. Giuseppa Vaccarino 28 June 1885
6. Maria Nazarena Vaccarino 5 June 1890 - 6 Nov 1906

Giuseppe Vaccarino 1858-1905 & Francesca Barbagallo ~1853-1897
1. Salvatore Vaccarino 21 Aug 1886
2. Carmelo Vaccarino 16 Nov 1891
& second wife Agata Le Mura
3. Giuseppe Vaccarino 1 Oct 1902
4. Giuseppa Vaccarino 5 Apr 1905

Salvatore Vaccarino ~1863 & Sebastiana Leotta
1. Giuseppa Vaccarino 10 Aug 1888
2. Gaetano Vaccarino 30 May 1890
3. Isidoro Vaccarino 15 Feb 1892
4. Rosario Vaccarino 15 Apr 1894
5. Sebastiano Vaccarino 15 Sept 1896
6. Lucia Vaccarino 21 Dec 1898
7. Rosario Vaccarino 16 June 1901
8. Carmelo Vaccarino 1 Aug 1904
9. Salvatore Vaccarino 13 June 1907

[Kaylie]

To: Tessa; is there any way to confirm that the children of Giuseppe Vaccarino and Francesca Barbagallo were Isidoro (wife Rosario Cannizzaro), Giuseppe (no marriage info), and Carmelo (wife Rosa Greco)?