1948 case help

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wilsonfromdevon
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1948 case help

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Hello,
I have started a 1948 case with my lawyer. However the first documents that he has asked me to source are certificates from the Italian consular authorities for everyone in my line to confirm that they have never renounced their Italian citizenship according to article 7, L. 555/1912. However I am stumped as to how to obtain these certificates. I have looked online and I cant see anything relating to how to obtain them or anyone else asking or referencing obtaining them for their own case. I have already obtained a certificate of no evidence of naturalisation for my grand mother and have my grand fathers naturalisation certificate.

Has anyone else had to obtain said certificates and if so how did you do it? Are these certificates standard procedure?
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I have prepared documents for 1948 cases involving about 100 people with different lawyers and none of them requested a "non rinuncia" check. They only asked for evidence of naturalization of a) the Italian emigrant and b) those in the line who were born in one country and married or had children in another country.

If I was you I would check how much experience THAT lawyer has in 1948 cases. Paiano and a couple other lawyers have won more than 1000 cases each.
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CARLOSALBARDIAZ wrote: 09 Jan 2021, 15:36 I have prepared documents for 1948 cases involving about 100 people with different lawyers and none of them requested a "non rinuncia" check. They only asked for evidence of naturalization of a) the Italian emigrant and b) those in the line who were born in one country and married or had children in another country.

If I was you I would check how much experience THAT lawyer has in 1948 cases. Paiano and a couple other lawyers have won more than 1000 cases each.
I received an email from the consulate yesterday saying that they do not give out these certificates to anyone.
I am using Andrea Scozzaro at the moment are there any other lawyers that you would recommended? The quote I received from Andrea was almost half of what Paiano quoted.

He has requested that I obtain birth, marriage, death, non rinuncia from the consulate for everyone in the chain and residency certificates for those applying.
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My lawyer is ICA, they have laid out a very clear path and I'm likely looking at a 1948 case as well. So far it has been great, but the process will take 2 years or more.

The only documents with respect to naturalization they requested, was the letter from USCIS of no records found.

Prior to September 27, 1906, all naturalization records were processed and retained in the respected local county courthouse in the USA and to my knowledge nothing was sent to Italy noting status of naturalization. Not sure if that changed after 1906 when the federal government took over?
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Hi have just come across the same issue with my Italian lawyer asking for my ancestors certificates of "non rinuncia".

Looks like I have been down the same Rabbit hole with the Consulate in London. Have any of those whose lawyers were asking for this information convinced them that you cannot get it.

If someone has got it how was it done?

Am going to ask the Comune to do it on my behalf, however guessing they won't. They can do it as part of the standard process but as this is a 1948 case assume the answer will be a no.

Have all other documents, just seem to have hit a brick wall
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