Bisceglie Marriage Allegati Package

[ameb10]

Does anyone have any recommendations for translating this? Is this only part of it? How do marriage allegati packages work? Here is the link of the marriage allegati package.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043450

Thank you!

[PippoM]

If I understand what you want to know,
this is the cover of the allegati package.
Scrolling forward, you'll find:
A certification of the publication of banns (3 images)
A birth certificate for Giovanni Rana
A birth certificate for Giulia Monopoli
A sworn declaration (atto notorio) of Giovanni Rana, stating he was unmarried
A sworn declaration (atto notorio) of Donatella Sasso (Giulia Monopoli's mother), stating her husband was in America and could not give his consent for the marriage of their daughter
If you need a translation of some of these documents, just tell us.

[ameb10]

If I understand what you want to know,
this is the cover of the allegati package.
Scrolling forward, you'll find:
A certification of the publication of banns (3 images)
A birth certificate for Giovanni Rana
A birth certificate for Giulia Monopoli
A sworn declaration (atto notorio) of Giovanni Rana, stating he was unmarried
A sworn declaration (atto notorio) of Donatella Sasso (Giulia Monopoli's mother), stating her husband was in America and could not give his consent for the marriage of their daughter
If you need a translation of some of these documents, just tell us.

Thank you this is perfect. Is there any way someone can help me translate Giovanni’s birth page? I have tried my best and so far I have he was born February, in Bisceglie, and his father is Carlo Rana.

[PippoM]

Record date: Feb 5th, 1881
Declarant (father): Carlo Rana, 27 years old, cart driver, living in Bisceglie
Giovanni was born at 6:20am on Feb 4th, at 13, via Zangrilli
Mother: Ippolita Amoruso

I don't know if you are aware that "Giovanni Rana" is the name of a famous fresh pasta entrepreneur, owner of a brand that goes by the same name.

[joetucciarone]

In Florida, our Publix supermarket sells Rana's pasta, which is a favorite at our house!

[ameb10]

Record date: Feb 5th, 1881
Declarant (father): Carlo Rana, 27 years old, cart driver, living in Bisceglie
Giovanni was born at 6:20am on Feb 4th, at 13, via Zangrilli
Mother: Ippolita Amoruso

I don't know if you are aware that "Giovanni Rana" is the name of a famous fresh pasta entrepreneur, owner of a brand that goes by the same name.

Thank you so much! I wonder if I’m related to the Giovanni Rana that makes pasta?

[joetucciarone]

Hi - you asked if you might be related to pasta-maker Giovanni Rana. Unfortunately, the evidence is against that possibility. Here's the current distribution of people in Italy with the surname Rana:

http://www.gens.info/italia/it/turismo- ... RvcAi1h1qs

Compared to other surnames, it's fairly rare, occurring in only 171 comuni. You can see there's a concentration on the Adriatic around Bisceglie where your Carlo Rana lived in 1881. The website for pasta-maker Giovanni Rana notes that his operation began in San Giovanni Lupatoto, which is about 60 miles west of Venice. That's almost the entire length of the peninsula northwest of Bisceglie. It's not impossible that one of your (or Giovanno's) Rana ancestors migrated across the length of Italy at some point in the past 100+ years. Of course, if one of his family was interested in their ancestry and had built a family tree, and taken a DNA test, that would be helpful in determining a possible relationship...

[ameb10]

Hi again, I am struggling with finding a birth certificate for Giovanni Rana. I know the marriage allegati package has it, but is there any way I can find his actual one? Thank you

[mmogno]

Hi again, I am struggling with finding a birth certificate for Giovanni Rana. I know the marriage allegati package has it, but is there any way I can find his actual one? Thank you

#146
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

[ameb10]

Hi again, I am struggling with finding a birth certificate for Giovanni Rana. I know the marriage allegati package has it, but is there any way I can find his actual one? Thank you

#146
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

Wow thank you so much!

[littlebee]

Hi, my name is Deorah L Holt and i am new to this site, which was recommended by my newly found cousin, Anne, who has been on this forum seekung help with documents, translations, etc.
I would like to continue where she left off with regards to the Carlo Rana and Popa Ippolita Amourso family. She had gotten a tremendous amount of help and information also about their son Giovanni Rana, his birth and marriage, i am lookung for information about his youngest sister, Angelina Maria Rana, who also was born to Carlo and Popa Ippolita Amoruso. I am lookung for a birth certificate. In her funeral book it says she was born 2 July 1900, but i have also heard, word of mouth, that she was really born in 1898. Could you find the actual document? Also are there any Baptismal records for Angelina, Giovanni, and other siblings.
I have another question: i was told she entered a local convent, perhaps for 2-3 years when she was perhaps in her lats teens to about 20. Thank you very much!! Deb

[littlebee]

I am looking for Birth Certificates for my grandmother:
Angelina Rana, born 2 July (1898 or 1900)
Biscelgie, Bari.
D. 29 March 1966 (San Leandro, CA, USA)
Her parents :
Father: Carla Rana
3 July 1854-1938
Biscelgie, Bari
Mother :
Ippolita “Popa“ “Giuseppina“ Amoruso
8 June 1862- 1940
Biscelgie, Bari

Birth, Marriage, death dates/certificates also
Ippolita’s parents : i have no dates, just names
Giovanni Amoruso
Angela Todisco

And Birth, marriage, death certificates for:
Carlo Rana

And if possible his parent’s names

Thank you so much for any help you can provide!!

(a cousin Anne was communicating with you quite a bit last September and October of 2021, and you were able to help find records for her grear geandoa Giovanni Rana, who was my grandma Angelina Rana’a older brother.
I also remember the subject of Giovanni Rana Pasta being brought up in the conversation last year)

[PippoM]

Angela Rana birth record in 1898:

https://www.antenati.san.beniculturali. ... 49/wb7OBbA

[PippoM]

Carlo Rana's birth record in 1854:

https://www.antenati.san.beniculturali. ... 30/5BKpobV

[PippoM]

Carlo Rana and Popa Amoruso's marriage record:

https://www.antenati.san.beniculturali. ... 37/5gj9zDn