La Rotonda Giuseppe ang Maria Gardinetti

[wabash]

Trying to find the birthplace of Giuseppe La Rotonda born 2/28/1886 Last address buffalo NY DoD 1933
and his wife
Maria Antonia Gardinetti DOB 9/9/1895 DOD 9/8/1990 Both were born in Italy I was told.they came from Naples. Angie

[pink67]

Have you already seen this article about Joseph's death?

http://www.fultonhistory.com/Newspaper% ... ehtml&.pdf

Laura

[pink67]

In the case that you don't have it the possible 1930 census:

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Joseph Lartonda
Home in 1930: Buffalo, Erie, New York
View Map
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Lartonda
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Lartonda 43 head, born in Italy, immigr. year 1913
Mary Lartonda 34 wife, born in IT, immigr. year 1918
Archie Lartonda 8 son, born in NY

Laura

[wabash]

Laura
Thanks I did go to the Library actually this week and was able to find his draft card and the census, I sent away for his Naturalzation Papers around a month ago and death certificate he died in 1933. When my father was alive he said his father had drowned.
Archie was my father he died when I was sixteen and I have nobody to ask to ask any questions. I dont know where in Italy he was born I have been on ellis Islands site but cant seem to find anything.
Thanks Angie

[wabash]

No Laura I did not see that article how sad.

Where did you look to find this information all of you on this site are fantastic.

Thank You

[suanj]

Laura
Thanks I did go to the Library actually this week and was able to find his draft card and the census, I sent away for his Naturalzation Papers around a month ago and death certificate he died in 1933. When my father was alive he said his father had drowned.
Archie was my father he died when I was sixteen and I have nobody to ask to ask any questions. I dont know where in Italy he was born I have been on ellis Islands site but cant seem to find anything.
Thanks Angie

Hi, you can show us the WWI draft registration card abt your Giuseppe La Rotonda?
I cannot find it, just I found a World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Robert Giuseppe Larotonda
Name: Robert Giuseppe Larotonda
City: Buffalo
County: Erie
State: New York
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1985( 1885)
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1712051
DraftBoard: 3

next of kin: sister Elvira La Rotonda in Albano di Lucania ( Potenza province, Basilicata region, IT)


but it is not your ancestor...
suanj

[pink67]

the site is this one:

http://www.fultonhistory.com/

this is the possible 1920 arrival manfiest for Maria Giardinetti, Joseph's wife:

3 april 1920
Giardinetti Maria, age 24, female, single, from Albano (Albano di Lucania Potenza province) going to Buffalo to join her brother in law Nicola Molfisi, lòeaving in Albano her father Francesco

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0022
page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0022

and from the site Ancestry.com Maria Antonia's birth act:

Birth Act number 56 - Year 1895

Giardinetti Maria Antonia was born in Albano di Lucania on the day 9 september 1895, daughter of Francesco Saverio? age 43 farmer and of his wife Cristiano Maria Arcangiola

image here:

http://postimage.org/image/9vvnu8mzr/

Laura

[pink67]

Hi, you can show us the WWI draft registration card abt your Giuseppe La Rotonda?
I cannot find it, just I found a World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

about Robert Giuseppe Larotonda
Name: Robert Giuseppe Larotonda
City: Buffalo
County: Erie
State: New York
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1985( 1885)
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1712051
DraftBoard: 3

next of kin: sister Elvira La Rotonda in Albano di Lucania ( Potenza province, Basilicata region, IT)


but it is not your ancestor...
suanj

Hi Suanj

This is the birth act from the civil registrations of Albano Lucano:

Birth Act number 14 - Year 1885

Carbone Roberto Giuseppe was born in Albano di Lucania on the day 1 febraury 1885, son of Maria Carbone age 33, hosewife and of a man who didn't wanted to be named.

Annotation on the left side of the act:
On the day 16 april 1905 Roberto Giuseppe Carbone was officially recognized as son of Arcangelo Larotonda son of the late Gerardo

image here
http://postimage.org/image/51oh9sqrt/

considering that Joseph's first child was named Archie (grandfather's name Arcangelo) I believe that he was the right Joseph Carbone...

Laura

[suanj]

Great Laura!
so the immigration record is this:
First Name: Roberto
Last Name: La Rotonda
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Albano Luco., Italy
Date of Arrival: May 17, 1906
Age at Arrival: 21y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Madonna
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0010

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passR ... 2230070010&

so the WWI draft registration card is right...

suanj

[pink67]

Great Laura!
so the immigration record is this:
First Name: Roberto
Last Name: La Rotonda
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Albano Luco., Italy
Date of Arrival: May 17, 1906
Age at Arrival: 21y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Madonna
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0010

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passR ... 2230070010&

so the WWI draft registration card is right...

suanj

Si Suanj, per me si tratta dell'uomo giusto... che storia triste...

Angie this is the link to the arrival manifest image from Ancestry.com:

http://postimage.org/image/ne7pepug7/

Laura

[suanj]

yes very sad story.....

[pink67]

Joseph La Rotonda's father died on 1913:

Death act number 34 - Year 1913

La Rotonda Arcangelo age 75, proprietor, born and resident in Albano di Lucania son of the late Gerardo , proprietor and of the late De Grazia Maria Giovanna gentlewoman, died on the day 1 october 1913 at the address Corso Garibaldi number 34 in Albano di Lucania. He was single

image here:
http://postimage.org/image/j939zkuav/

Laura

p.s. I found a little reference about Gerardo La Rotonda (Joseph's grandfather) on this site:

http://www.brigantaggio.net/Brigantaggi ... Lucano.htm

[adelfio]

I was wondering about Francesco Saverio so I looked up another birth record of another sibling brother of Maria Giardinetti
Birth act number 117 Potenza > Albano Di Lucania > Atti Di Nascita > 1891
1891 Dec 27 Antonio Domencio Giardinetti son of Francesco Giardinetti and Maria Cristiano living in Albano di Lucania delivered by Francesca Primavera midwife. Maybe mistake in record or middle name Saverio/FRANCESCO SAVERIO GIARDINETTI
click for birth record click again to enlarge



Marty

[pink67]

Again references to La Rotonda here, the site of the history of the town of Albano di Lucania:

http://www.comune.albanodilucania.pz.it ... ?codice=11

Gerardo La Rotonda il 31 agosto 1853 condannato ad anni 7 di ferri per complicità secondaria. Con decreto del 16 ottobre di detto anno gli venne commutata la pena in relegazione. Morì nell’ isola di Ventotene in tempo del colera del ‘54;

Arcangelo La Rotonda, escarcerato 1’8 aprile 1850;
Michele La Rotonda, escarcerato il 3 febbraio 1853, libertà provvisoria;

Laura

[pink67]

Maybe this boy was a sibling of Roberto Giuseppe La Rotonda?

Birth Act number 12 - Year 1881

Carbone Alessandro was born in Albano di Lucania on the day 10 febraury 1881, at the address Vico Colletta number 13, son of Carbone Maria, age 32, laundress and of a man who didn't wanted to be named.

no annotation on it.

this boy died when he was only 15 years old

Death act number 6 - Year 1896

Carbone Alessandro died in Albano di Lucania on the day 18 february 1896, he was 15 years old, single, apprentice tailor, son of the living Maria Carbone, laundress and of unknown father.

Laura