italian name Leber

[murse1973]

HEY VALARIE

I see you mentioned his marriage certificate, where did you see that at, would you post the link.

His death certificate had his birthdate at 1889 just like the wwi draft card...I also found this on ancestory, does anyone know why he would be on this boat?

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Vi ... id=3555659

[pink67]

Really great finds Valarie and Suanj!!!

HEY VALARIE

I see you mentioned his marriage certificate, where did you see that at, would you post the link.

Another record from Family Search
No luck with place of birth on Chas Leber's 1917 marriage record
(wife's name Marie Louise Spatz)

groom's name: Charles Leber
groom's birth date: 1892
groom's birthplace: Italy
groom's age: 25
bride's name: Marie Spatz
bride's birth date: 1896
bride's birthplace: Cin'Ti., O
bride's age: 21
marriage date: 15 Jan 1917
marriage place: Newport, Campbell, Kentucky
groom's father's name: L. Leber
groom's mother's name: Mary Leber
bride's father's name: L. Spatz
bride's mother's name: Barbara Spatz
groom's race: White
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race: White
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M01616-4
system origin: Kentucky-EASy
source film number: 1913169
reference number: P187
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this record is from the site Familysearch.org, link is here:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FW1Q-GY3

but there's no imagine online...

Laura

[vj]

...I also found this on ancestory, does anyone know why he would be on this boat?

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=Vi ... id=3555659

Hi Mike,
If you mean this 1941 manifest, it probably isn't your Chas Leber
Valarie

http://imageshack.us/a/img838/2118/1941b.jpg
Charles Leber born 1899

[suanj]

In West Virginia, by WWI draft registration card, the italians with similar surname coming from San Giovanni in Fiore ( Cosenza province, Calabria, IT); the original surname was Le Pera ( but in same place also exist Lepera); in effects in San Giovanni in Fiore was a Lorenzo (Lawrence) Le Pera but married at Maria Audia ... a son, Pasquale Le Pera immigrated in USA in 1910 and settled in Pittsburgh, PA

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0790%2ETIF

obviously it is no Charles Angelo...

just for to say that the birth area could be the same, after so much to search, and after that we have a better idea abt Charles Angelo story ....
I cannot find no one Le Pera/Lepera matching with the first name Carlo or Angelo or Carlo Angelo (in italian)
just I found a Cataldo Lepera

First Name: Cataldo
Last Name: Lepera
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Cariah
Date of Arrival: Sep 12, 1903
Age at Arrival: 18y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Citta di Milano
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0026
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0026

age 18, coming from Cariati, final destination the uncle Giuseppe Caligiuri in Pittsburg, PA
but this man was born on 1 Mar 1885 son of Domenico Le Pera and Filomena Furciniti

no one parent's names matching with Charles Angelo Leber parents on death certificate, as a well also no matching the birth date...

If Charles Angelo Leber mother name is right Peta (or Petta) this surname is also in same area...

The Cosenza archive database is no complete to 100% so many records are not .....

It is a hard search.... no certainty abt first name.. surname spelling is a mystery... the Sagant birthplace is a big mystery also...
the birthyear is no sure to 100%... we know not the immigration year... we know not if he is in 1910 census... it is a problem....
I am so sorry....
suanj

[vj]

Hey suanj!
Wonderful additional research and summary !
I hope Mike orders Chas Leber's SS Application, it would be great to know the beginning of his story.
Thank you, Valarie

[murse1973]

We are going to order....This is Ulanda , Mikes mother . You just don't know what this means to me, all this that you have found. And we have decided to get to Missouri and put headstone on the grave . They looked for us and no tombstone. Thank you again so much for all your help in this adventure we have taken..

[vj]

Ulanda,
Thank you so much for the update.
I'm so glad we could all help.
Please let us know what you find on his SS Application
Valarie