Trying to go further back with surnames Riccia, Tallone, and Chiacchio from Naples (?)

[darthsmozers]

My great-grandmother's name was Filomena Tallone, b. 1904 in Grumo Nevano, Napoli.

Her father was Antonio Tallone (b. 1867 in Italy, d. 1957 in NJ).
Her mother was Rosa Riccia (b. in Italy, no known dates...)
I do not know any info about Rosa or her parents.

Antonio Tallone's mother was Maria Brigida Chiacchio (b. in Italy, no known dates...)
I do not know anything about Maria, nor who Antonio's father was (m. to Maria).

Is any Naples-related info online? Thank you for any help you may provide.

[suanj]

My great-grandmother's name was Filomena Tallone, b. 1904 in Grumo Nevano, Napoli.

Her father was Antonio Tallone (b. 1867 in Italy, d. 1957 in NJ).
Her mother was Rosa Riccia (b. in Italy, no known dates...)
I do not know any info about Rosa or her parents.

Antonio Tallone's mother was Maria Brigida Chiacchio (b. in Italy, no known dates...)
I do not know anything about Maria, nor who Antonio's father was (m. to Maria).

Is any Naples-related info online? Thank you for any help you may provide.

Hi,
here the marriage record:
Grumo Nevano 21 Jan 1892 #4
Groom- Antonio Tallone, single, 25 old, farmer, born and resident in Grumo, son of Francesco (Tallone) and Brigida Chiacchio
Bride- Rosina Reccia, single, 18 old, spinner, born and resident in Grumo, daughter of Tommaso (Reccia) and Lucia D'Errico.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1483009
regards,
suanj

[Tessa78]

Birth act of Filomena Tallone in 1904

#213
Dated 30 November 1904 = Birth on 28 November 1904 at 2:10 AM
Father: Antonio Tallone, 38, farmer
Mother: Rosina Reccia, 36, housewife.
Child born at home at Corso Garibaldi, and given the name Filomena Amalia.
The child was presented to the official by Anna Sibilio, the midwife, in place of Reccia's husband because he was in America.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1483009

AND***
Based on the marriage record provided by suanj above, Rosina Reccia birth in 1873.
#36
Father: Tommaso Reccia, 32, son of deceased Francesco, farmer residing in Grumo
Mother: Lucia d'Errico, his wife.
Child born on 24 February 1873 at 6 AM
Child given the name Rosina.

Notation in column - marriage to Antonio Tallone [son of Francesco] on 21 January 1892.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1483009

T.

[darthsmozers]

suanj and Tessa: You both make this look so easy! Are these names indexed and searchable, or did you scan through the batch of documents in a particular collection?

Thank you!!

[Tessa78]

For the births... the 1904 records were indexed at the end of the register.
The earlier birth act for Rosina Reccia was not indexed and I searced page by page.

I also searched in earlier years (1866-1867) for Antonio Tallone's birth (page by page) but did not find him, YET.

Checked the marriages in 1866-1867 for Francesco Tallone and Brigida Chiacchio, but was unsuccessful there as well (no indices available)

EDIT TO ADD***
Located the birth act of Antonio Tallone - #84 in 1866 in Grumo
Dated 30 May 1866 - birth on same day at home at Strada Napoli.
Father: Francesco Tallone, 25, [son of A. G. P. di Napoli (?)], farmer
Mother: Brigida Chiacchio, his wife
Child given the name Antonio.

Margin notation of marriage on 21 January 1892 to Rosina Reccia.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1483009


AND***
Here is the marriage of Francesco Tallone and Brigida Chiacchio in 1865

#4
Dated 16 February 1865

Groom: Francesco Paolo Alfonzo Luigi Tallone, unmarried, age 23 complete, born in Napoli, farmer residing in this town from his childhood, son of "A. G. P. of R. Stabilimento di Napoli" (?), farmer residing ...(?); and of Concetta Cristiano residing there, present, consenting to the act.

Bride: Maria Brigida Chiacchio, age 23 complete, unmarried, born in this town, residing there at Strada Cappelle; daughter of Pasquale, farmer residing there; and of Maria Gaetana Landolfo, residing there, present, consenting to the act.

Publication of Banns took place on Sunday, 1 January 1865 on the door of the town office and there was no opposition.

Documents presented:
1 - Birth act of the groom
2 - Birth act of the bride
3 - Certificate of notification and no opposition.

Right column - Church celebration of marriage on 17 February

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1483009

T.

[Tessa78]

I believe the A.G.P. of R. Stabilimento di Napoli indicates that he was an abandoned child, and possibly a ward of the government.

...and to correct my translation, it looks like he resided with and was raised by married couple Tammaro Pezone and Concetta Cristiano in Grumo.

Maybe someone can clarify the reference.

T.

[mmogno]

I believe the A.G.P. of R. Stabilimento di Napoli indicates that he was an abandoned child, and possibly a ward of the government

https://books.google.it/books?id=PTIsiz ... li&f=false

[darthsmozers]

I believe the A.G.P. of R. Stabilimento di Napoli indicates that he was an abandoned child, and possibly a ward of the government

https://books.google.it/books?id=PTIsiz ... li&f=false

I believe the A.G.P. of R. Stabilimento di Napoli indicates that he was an abandoned child, and possibly a ward of the government

https://books.google.it/books?id=PTIsiz ... li&f=false

What about this explanation? http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/i ... logy/29115

[darthsmozers]

I believe the A.G.P. of R. Stabilimento di Napoli indicates that he was an abandoned child, and possibly a ward of the government

https://books.google.it/books?id=PTIsiz ... li&f=false

Ah, my sin is that I cannot read Italian

[mmogno]

http://www.comune.napoli.it/flex/cm/pag ... 2aa4ab1207

[darthsmozers]

http://www.comune.napoli.it/flex/cm/pag ... 2aa4ab1207

Thank you.

[darthsmozers]

I believe the A.G.P. of R. Stabilimento di Napoli indicates that he was an abandoned child, and possibly a ward of the government.

...and to correct my translation, it looks like he resided with and was raised by married couple Tammaro Pezone and Concetta Cristiano in Grumo.

Maybe someone can clarify the reference.

T.

Tessa,

I am confused. Regarding Francesco: Is it saying that he was abandoned / ward of the state, but raised by Tammaro Pezone and Concetta Cristiano? As in, adoptive parents, so to speak?

[Tessa78]

I believe the A.G.P. of R. Stabilimento di Napoli indicates that he was an abandoned child, and possibly a ward of the government.

...and to correct my translation, it looks like he resided with and was raised by married couple Tammaro Pezone and Concetta Cristiano in Grumo.

Maybe someone can clarify the reference.

T.

Tessa,

I am confused. Regarding Francesco: Is it saying that he was abandoned / ward of the state, but raised by Tammaro Pezone and Concetta Cristiano? As in, adoptive parents, so to speak?

That is how I read it. The document states that he resided with Tammaro Pezone and Concetta Cristiano(a married couple), and it states that Francesco lived in the town of Grumo from childhood.

Cannot say for certain that he was legally adopted, but it sure sounds like it

T.

[darthsmozers]

I believe the A.G.P. of R. Stabilimento di Napoli indicates that he was an abandoned child, and possibly a ward of the government.

...and to correct my translation, it looks like he resided with and was raised by married couple Tammaro Pezone and Concetta Cristiano in Grumo.

Maybe someone can clarify the reference.

T.

Tessa,

I am confused. Regarding Francesco: Is it saying that he was abandoned / ward of the state, but raised by Tammaro Pezone and Concetta Cristiano? As in, adoptive parents, so to speak?

That is how I read it. The document states that he resided with Tammaro Pezone and Concetta Cristiano(a married couple), and it states that Francesco lived in the town of Grumo from childhood.

Cannot say for certain that he was legally adopted, but it sure sounds like it

T.

Tessa,

Regarding "Tammaro Pezone" - am I to assume those are his given names and that "Tallone" is he and his wife's last name? Or might Tallone be a surname attached to the abandoned baby, with "Pezone" being Tammaro's surname?

[Tessa78]

An abandoned child was given its first and last name (nome e cognome) by the official.

Tallone would be Francesco's given surname.

Tammaro Pezone and his wife, Concetta Cristiano, were the couple who raised him.
FYI - Italian women kept their maiden name.

I believe that Francesco was not adopted, but rather put in the care of this couple.

EDIT TO ADD***

Here is the birth of another son to Francesco Tallone and Brigida Chiacchio in 1868.
Father was Francesco Tallone, "son" of Ave Gratia Plena, raised by Tammarantonio Pezone...
Mother was Brigida Chiacchio, his wife.
Birth on 23 April 1868 at home, Strada Cappelle.
The child was given the name Gaetano.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1483009

T.