Mother -> Grandmother -> Great Grandfather Question

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Noni
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Mother -> Grandmother -> Great Grandfather Question

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It is my understanding that I do not qualify for citizenship via Jus Sanguinis because my grandpa was naturalized in 1920, but my grandma was born in 1932.

My question is, are there any other options, Maybe a more esoteric route to acquire citizenship through Jus Sanguinis or a similar vein, or am i really just out of options?

Thank you in advance for your replies.
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Depends. Were your great grandparents married before he naturalized?
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omg i have the same question as you would love answers
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Dusting off this thread, I have nearly the same exact question here....

Native Italian great grandfather immigrated to NY 1921, met and married my Italian immigrant great grandmother and had two of my G/uncles in the 20's. My great grandfather was naturalized 9 months before my grandmother was born (1931). Both her brothers qualify and she does not. Is there any loop hole or exception since both her siblings qualified?

My grandmother just passed away and only one of her brothers is still living. Any info would help my family out so so much!
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When did your great grandmother naturalize?
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No, there is no loophole for your grand-mother because her father was no longer Italian when she was born. It also does no matter when her mother may have naturalized because an Italian woman cannot pass Italian citizenship to any offspring born before 1948 and your grand-mother was born in 1931. Unfortunately not all descendants of Italian immigrants are qualified. It depends entirely on the action taken by the immigrant ancestors and when their children were born.
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mler wrote: 31 Dec 2017, 15:44 When did your great grandmother naturalize?
It appears she may never have naturalized. She's listed as an alien in the 1920 census then married my ggf in the mid20's after the cable act. She may have assumed her citizenship was baked into marrying him (when he was not naturalized).
This is really disappointing and exhausting, especially since both of my great uncles' children/gchildren qualify. I really appreciate the help and answers from y'all.
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There is indeed no loophole through your great grandfather. When he naturalized he lost his Italian citizenship and thus could not transmit citizenship to his children born after that date.

If you can document that your Italian great grandmother never naturalized (or naturalized after your grandmother was born) your American-born grandmother would have obtained Italian citizenship through her. This would, of course, be a 1948 case because, as previously noted, under the law at that time, a woman could not pass citizenship to her children. Courts, however, have ruled otherwise.
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