Vettese & Miele Family Records

[tag_wolverine]

Hello everyone!

I am trying to locate information and records for my great-grandparents who were born/lived in or around Cassino, FR Italy before immigrating to the United States in 1909/10. Andrew Vettese was my great-grandfather and Saveria (Sadie) Miele was my great-grandmother. They were born in 1885 and 1883 respectively.

Has anyone run across these names in their own research or had any luck in locating records in Cassino? Thank you so much!

[Italysearcher]

All civil records in Cassino were destroyed in WW2. Anyone who left before WW2 would not have reconstructed their records. You might be able to locate Andrew's military record from the Archivio di Stato di Frosinone. There are posts on my website about this.

[Italysearcher]

Could he have been born in Vallerotonda and been living in Monaco beforeWW1?

[Tessa78]

According to arrival of Saveria Miele and her son Giuseppe Vettese in 1920, they were born in "S. Elia" (Sant'Elia Fiumerapido, Frosinone)

Lines 5 & 6
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/74 ... PUBJs=true

T.

[Adelphio]

Here you go for his military record and birth record
E–Mail: demog@comune.santeliafiumerapido.fr.it

Comune di Sant'Elia Fiumerapido
Piazza Enrico Risi
03049 Sant'Elia Fiumerapido FR
Italy


OGGETTO: richiesta registro di leva ai sensi dell'art. 107 del DPR 396/2000
OGGETTO: Richiesta esito di leva di Giuseppe Vettese classe di nascita 1909-1910

Egregi signori,
Mi chiamo YOURNAME. Ho bisogno delle informazioni dai vostri registri. Ai fini dell'ottenimento della cittadinanza italiana. Ho richiedo cortesemente copia integrale dell' di leva o registro atti di nascita
Ho email all'ufficio di Sant'Elia Fiumerapido,( Frosinone). Ho ancora ricevuto alcuna riposta.
Potreste cercare l’ registro di leva o registro dei foglie matricolari di questa persona:
Nome e cognome: Giuseppe Vettese
Data di nascite: 1909-1910
Luogo di nascita: Sant'Elia Fiumerapido, Frosinone)
Nome e cognome del padre: Andrea Vettese
Nome e cognome della madre: Saveria Miele
Se non avete i registri corrispondenti, potete fornire l’indirizzo dell’archivio dove in cui i registri possano essere trovati?
Vi ringrazio in anticipo per il vostro gentilezza e premura.
Distinti saluti,
YOUR NAME ADDRESS EMAIL PHOTO ID

Marty

[Adelphio]

Look at this tree user name desiree blasius on ancestry.com
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/pe ... 0133/facts

Marty

[Italysearcher]

You can't get a military record (foglio matricolare) from the Comune. His birth record probably isn't there either since Sant'Elia lost its civil records in WW2 and only has reconstructed ones.

[TerraLavoro]

You'd have to view them at a Family History Center, but the birth records for Andrea Vettese and Saveria Miele should be in the Sant'Elia records:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/cat ... %20Library

1883 and 1885 are in film No. 1883003, DGS No. 7973000

[Italysearcher]

If Andrea and his wife and son left Italy before WW2 they wouldn't have reconstructed their records and therefore you won't find them in the Comune OR in the Family Search digitized records since the second copies stored in the Tribunal of Cassino were also destroyed. The parish records survived (for the most part) and they must be viewed in person at the parish archives. The priest won't do research but he will do certificates for citizenship purposes.
Foglio matricolare can be obtained from the State Archives in Frosinone NOT from the town of Sant'Elia. There is a post on my blog on this subject.

[tag_wolverine]

Thank you all so much!

So Frosinone said that they located his military records and are in the process of sending those over. I am checking the roles at Sant'Elia to try and located his birth record but it looks like it is only Saveria that I've found. If Andrea's records were indeed destroyed during the war, would a military record be accepted by the Italian consulate?

I have written to the parish priest for records as well giving the exact dates and asking for a certificate. I have my fingers crossed that will work!! Any advice on dealing with the parish office?