I am trying to find records on my second greatgrandparents. Giuseppe Messina and Maria Giuseppina Bianchino and Marcellino Messina and Carmela Misara all of San Potito Sannitico Caserta Italy. I have a Marriage Record that lists Carmela Misara as the mother of Vincenzo Messina (my greatgrandfather). But Carmela's surname I am questioning. I have seen it as Misara and then as Messeve. Any type of help wld be greatly appreciated.
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Toni
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tonij16102
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Can you post the marriage record link?
AND some dates
The surname Messere exists in Caserta.
T.
AND some dates
The surname Messere exists in Caserta.
T.
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Tessa,
Is there anyway I can post in here what I have?
Is there anyway I can post in here what I have?
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You can use the site www.postimages.org.
You can also post links to the records you have so we can access them directly.
What is the date of the marriage of Vincenzo Messina?
T.
You can also post links to the records you have so we can access them directly.
What is the date of the marriage of Vincenzo Messina?
T.
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tonij16102
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Vincenzo Messina but spelled Misina on Certificate of Marriage. Married Concetta Palmieri Dec 28, 1889 New York. Listed parents as Giuseppe Messina and Maria Guiseppina Bianchino as his patents. Concetta's parents were listed as Marccilino Messina and Carmel Misara. They were from San Potito Caseta Italy.
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Thank you!
Here are some other records so other volunteers can view here...
Find a grave for Vincenzo
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/186 ... sina/photo
1900 US Census for Vincenzo and family
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/76 ... 1558122696
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I have not yet been able to access 1861 births in San Potito, but I found a brother of Vincenzo in the 1864 births in that town. #22
Father: Giuseppe Messina, 35, landowner, son of deceased Vincenzo Messina
Mother: Maria Giuseppa Bianchino, his wife, 28. residing with him.
Child was born on 12 April 1864, and given the name RAFFAELE
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 8.jpg.html
ADDITIONAL EDIT
Here is the birth act of Vincenzo Messina in San Potito on 12 September 1861
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Father: Giuseppe Messina
Mother: Maria Giuseppa Bianchino
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
T.
Here are some other records so other volunteers can view here...
Find a grave for Vincenzo
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/186 ... sina/photo
1900 US Census for Vincenzo and family
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/76 ... 1558122696
**** Edit to add
I have not yet been able to access 1861 births in San Potito, but I found a brother of Vincenzo in the 1864 births in that town. #22
Father: Giuseppe Messina, 35, landowner, son of deceased Vincenzo Messina
Mother: Maria Giuseppa Bianchino, his wife, 28. residing with him.
Child was born on 12 April 1864, and given the name RAFFAELE
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 8.jpg.html
ADDITIONAL EDIT
Here is the birth act of Vincenzo Messina in San Potito on 12 September 1861
#40
Father: Giuseppe Messina
Mother: Maria Giuseppa Bianchino
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
T.
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Continuing on...
Marriage Act in 1860 of Marcellino Palmiero and Carmela Missere.
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Dated 27 August 1860 in San Potito
Marcellino Palmiero is age 22, born in San Potito, a farmer. He is the son of Giuseppe, a farmer; and of Maria Grazia d'Orsi
Carmela Missere is age 24, born in San Potito, daughter of deceased Giovanni, and of [living] Angiola Pasquale.
Celebration of church marriage on 30 August at the Church of S. Caterina.
Documents:
1 - birth act of groom
2 - birth act of bride
3 - death act of the father of the bride
4 - death act of Domenico Missere, grandfather of the bride
5 - Act of notification and certificate of no opposition
6 - Verbal consent of the parents of the groom who were present.
7 - Verbal consent of the mother of the bride who was present.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 0.jpg.html
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Marriage of Giuseppe Messina and Maria Bianchino, 25 October 1859 in San Potito
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Giovan Giuseppe Luigi Stanislao Messina, 31, born in Piedimonte, landowner residing in San Potito, son of deceased Vincenzo, landowner, and of Caterina Ricigliano.
Maria Bianchino, 28, born in San Potito, daughter of deceased Casimiro, farmer; and of Cristina Fioredella.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
T.
Marriage Act in 1860 of Marcellino Palmiero and Carmela Missere.
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Dated 27 August 1860 in San Potito
Marcellino Palmiero is age 22, born in San Potito, a farmer. He is the son of Giuseppe, a farmer; and of Maria Grazia d'Orsi
Carmela Missere is age 24, born in San Potito, daughter of deceased Giovanni, and of [living] Angiola Pasquale.
Celebration of church marriage on 30 August at the Church of S. Caterina.
Documents:
1 - birth act of groom
2 - birth act of bride
3 - death act of the father of the bride
4 - death act of Domenico Missere, grandfather of the bride
5 - Act of notification and certificate of no opposition
6 - Verbal consent of the parents of the groom who were present.
7 - Verbal consent of the mother of the bride who was present.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 0.jpg.html
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Marriage of Giuseppe Messina and Maria Bianchino, 25 October 1859 in San Potito
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Giovan Giuseppe Luigi Stanislao Messina, 31, born in Piedimonte, landowner residing in San Potito, son of deceased Vincenzo, landowner, and of Caterina Ricigliano.
Maria Bianchino, 28, born in San Potito, daughter of deceased Casimiro, farmer; and of Cristina Fioredella.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
T.
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Tess,
Thank You so very much!! I appreciate all of your help. I have been trying to research again. I have been sick on and off and trying to get back into this again.
Thank You so very much!! I appreciate all of your help. I have been trying to research again. I have been sick on and off and trying to get back into this again.
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Happy to help!tonij16102 wrote: 31 Aug 2019, 18:46 Tess,
Thank You so very much!! I appreciate all of your help. I have been trying to research again. I have been sick on and off and trying to get back into this again.
Just posted the marriage of Giuseppe Messina and Maria Bianchino above.
T.
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Thank you Tessa78!!!
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Here is the birth act of Carmela Missere in San Potito in 1835
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Father: Giovanni Missere, 47, farmer
Mother: Angiola Pascale, 47, his wife
Birth and baptism on 12 August 1835.
Child given the name Carmela
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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Birth act of Marcellino Palmiero in San Potito in 1838
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Father: Giuseppe Palmiero, 30, farmer
Mother: Maria Grazia Orsi, 27, his wife
Birth on 18 June 1838, baptism on 19 June
Child given the name Marchellino
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
You now have the birth acts for all 4 of your second great grandparents!
T.
#33
Father: Giovanni Missere, 47, farmer
Mother: Angiola Pascale, 47, his wife
Birth and baptism on 12 August 1835.
Child given the name Carmela
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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Birth act of Marcellino Palmiero in San Potito in 1838
#24
Father: Giuseppe Palmiero, 30, farmer
Mother: Maria Grazia Orsi, 27, his wife
Birth on 18 June 1838, baptism on 19 June
Child given the name Marchellino
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
You now have the birth acts for all 4 of your second great grandparents!
T.