Some Jus sanguinis questions

[Benjantzi]

Hello All,
I am helping my mother in law and wife to apply for jus sanguinis in San Francisco. My wifes older brother successfully applied in 2007 at the same consulate. It is my understanding that his documents for the Italian ancestor (such as certificate of no-naturalization and census document) will suffice for my mother in law and wife but that they will need to provide their own vital records.

In addition, when comparing my mother-in-law's brother's copy of form 4 (declaration of deceased ascendant) completed in 2007 against the current one for my wife and MIL, I came across a seemingly significant change in the form. His states that it is to be filled if the ancestor was born OUTSIDE of Italy but is deceased. The current form states that it is to be filled out for a deceased ascendent born IN Italy. This seemingly changes which ascendant they use and requires them to go back one more generation.

Also, pertaining to my MIL's brother's documentation, do I need to include anything to refer the consulate employee to that documentation or will they just find it? Will a cover letter explaining the situation suffice?

Thank You all

[Benjantzi]

It looks like my MIL falls into category 5
Per the consulate
"Category 5: your direct paternal or maternal ancestors were born in the United States from Italian parents and they never renounced their right to Italian citizenship."

If my MIL grandfather was born in Italy but her father was born in the USA does she even need to complete form 4 as her italian ascendant (father) was born in the USA?

[ItalianTranslator]

When you 'join' an existing application (even if resolved), you simply provide your own records as necessary. As such, I don't think she will have to fill in Form 4, since it was already presented by her brother. The brother should have his reference number, which your MIL should state in her application / add a cover letter. This reference number is usually stated on the recognition letter from the consulate and will allow to reference the brother's case. The consulate organized the archive 'by family'. It is also a good practice to include a photocopy of the same records her brother presented, so that the consular officer can immediately get an overview of your MIL's family tree without having to pull out her brother's original application.