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Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
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Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
Can anyone tell me what the Markie John designation means? My grandmother on my father's side was Napolitain, she used to make "comments" as only she could
that my mother's family was "thick headed" and Markie/Marky John. Can someone tell me what that means? I am thinking it relates to where they came from?
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
She probably referred to the adjective marchigiano.
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
I agree with Arturo. Most likely from Marche (S of San Marino and E of Florence on the east coast of Italy)...
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
In Roma, "marchigiano" is used to mean someone stinge and/or greedy.
That's because in the Papal State the tax collectors were from Marche.
Does "thick headed" mean "stupid", or "stubborn"?
That's because in the Papal State the tax collectors were from Marche.
Does "thick headed" mean "stupid", or "stubborn"?
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
PippoM wrote: 29 May 2021, 20:34 In Roma, "marchigiano" is used to mean someone stinge and/or greedy.
That's because in the Papal State the tax collectors were from Marche.
Does "thick headed" mean "stupid", or "stubborn"?
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If someone is "stubborn" they might be referred to as "hardheaded".
A person who seems not to be very intelligent or a bit "slow at catching on to things" might be referred to as "thickheaded".
Angela
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
My grandparents used "testa dura" (hard-headed) for stubborn and "testa vuota" (empty-headed) for dim-witted...
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
MarcuccioV wrote: 23 Feb 1975, 02:09 My grandparents used "testa dura" (hard-headed) for stubborn and "testa vuota" (empty-headed) for dim-witted...
We spoke dialect and the words in dialect sounded like:
cape tosta (hard head) and cape vacante (empty head or vacant head)
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
LOL. We had plenty of dialect terms also. I remembered these as the first was often used to describe both my grandfather & me...AngelaGrace56 wrote: 30 May 2021, 07:31MarcuccioV wrote: 23 Feb 1975, 02:09 My grandparents used "testa dura" (hard-headed) for stubborn and "testa vuota" (empty-headed) for dim-witted...
We spoke dialect and the words in dialect sounded like:
cape tosta (hard head) and cape vacante (empty head or vacant head)
Angela
BTW, speaking of dialect, "testa" sounded more like "day-shtah". LOL
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
MarcuccioV wrote: 30 May 2021, 13:14LOL. We had plenty of dialect terms also. I remembered these as the first was often used to describe both my grandfather & me...AngelaGrace56 wrote: 30 May 2021, 07:31MarcuccioV wrote: 23 Feb 1975, 02:09 My grandparents used "testa dura" (hard-headed) for stubborn and "testa vuota" (empty-headed) for dim-witted...
We spoke dialect and the words in dialect sounded like:
cape tosta (hard head) and cape vacante (empty head or vacant head)
Angela
Gee, I wonder why? (Just kidding.) Yes I remember one of my older syblings was sometimes referred to as "cape tosta"
BTW, speaking of dialect, "testa" sounded more like "day-shtah". LOL
"Testa" is Italian. Suddenly after years of using "cape" (Italian Capa - head) my mother started using "testa" when she was telling me she had a headache (na mal di testa). She pronounced "testa" as you would expect it be pronounced in Italian. (Initially, I didn't know what she meant.)
What region were your grandparents from?
Angela
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
Valmontone, east-central Lazio. DNA shows recent ancestry (in order) from Campania, Lazio, Abruzzo, Sicily and Puglia. But they must have arrived in Lazio before Civil records began (1871). I have only one ancestor so far (a 3GG) from outside of town (and she was from the next village north, Labico)...AngelaGrace56 wrote: 30 May 2021, 21:44MarcuccioV wrote: 30 May 2021, 13:14LOL. We had plenty of dialect terms also. I remembered these as the first was often used to describe both my grandfather & me...AngelaGrace56 wrote: 30 May 2021, 07:31
We spoke dialect and the words in dialect sounded like:
cape tosta (hard head) and cape vacante (empty head or vacant head)
Angela
Gee, I wonder why? (Just kidding.) Yes I remember one of my older syblings was sometimes referred to as "cape tosta"
BTW, speaking of dialect, "testa" sounded more like "day-shtah". LOL
"Testa" is Italian. Suddenly after years of using "cape" (Italian Capa - head) my mother started using "testa" when she was telling me she had a headache (na mal di testa). She pronounced "testa" as you would expect it be pronounced in Italian. (Initially, I didn't know what she meant.)
What region were your grandparents from?
Angela
We used "capoccia" in place of "testa" at times...
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
Thinking about it, another dialect term popular in the family was "matt'an capo" (crazy in the head).
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
AngelaGrace56 wrote: 30 May 2021, 06:32Thanks, Angela!PippoM wrote: 29 May 2021, 20:34 In Roma, "marchigiano" is used to mean someone stinge and/or greedy.
That's because in the Papal State the tax collectors were from Marche.
Does "thick headed" mean "stupid", or "stubborn"?
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If someone is "stubborn" they might be referred to as "hardheaded".
A person who seems not to be very intelligent or a bit "slow at catching on to things" might be referred to as "thickheaded".
Angela
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
PippoM wrote: 31 May 2021, 09:37AngelaGrace56 wrote: 30 May 2021, 06:32Thanks, Angela!PippoM wrote: 29 May 2021, 20:34 In Roma, "marchigiano" is used to mean someone stinge and/or greedy.
That's because in the Papal State the tax collectors were from Marche.
Does "thick headed" mean "stupid", or "stubborn"?
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If someone is "stubborn" they might be referred to as "hardheaded".
A person who seems not to be very intelligent or a bit "slow at catching on to things" might be referred to as "thickheaded".
Angela
You are welcome, Pippo.
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Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
The name of the region (Marche) derives from the plural of the medieval word marca, meaning "march" or "mark" in the sense of border zone, originally referring to a borderland territory of the Holy Roman Empire, such as the March of Ancona and others pertaining to the ancient region.
The above is from Wikipedia. The other posts in response to your question are not accurate and frankly are insulting to me. My father was from Civitanova, Marche and he was very proud of the city and region where he was raised.
The above is from Wikipedia. The other posts in response to your question are not accurate and frankly are insulting to me. My father was from Civitanova, Marche and he was very proud of the city and region where he was raised.
Re: Markie/Marky John and what does it mean?
Depending on regional slang, "markie" could have other meanings or connotations, though these would vary widely and might not be universally recognized.

