I am ok with Ciri and it does say Salemi to me.
Cira's mom's maiden name i have seen that being done before mistakenly
I had hard time locating - i found it on bottom left with Dominica and see Liveri i am ok with those misspells and Cira's mother's maiden name mistake
while looking around i noticed 3 records down on left on image 339 of 472
i do see leoluca and Maria Mannina and Giunta. not sure if they are related.
Thanks for the great eye. i just got another monitor and it is helping see things more clearly. yeah
Best
Linda
maria vintaloro josephi oliveri
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lindamauer
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Re: maria vintaloro josephi oliveri
Hello,
I just got finished trying to digest this thread
"The only issue is with her mother’s first name given as Lucia and not Angela in this marriage record"
but i am still confused regarding Lucia Di Fulco later called Crescimanna and supposedly the same person supposedly changing names to angela Crescimanna
Thanks
Linda
I just got finished trying to digest this thread
"The only issue is with her mother’s first name given as Lucia and not Angela in this marriage record"
but i am still confused regarding Lucia Di Fulco later called Crescimanna and supposedly the same person supposedly changing names to angela Crescimanna
Thanks
Linda
Re: maria vintaloro josephi oliveri
One quick comment or not so quick comment-
When the Council of Trent in the mid 1500s dictated that local parishes had to keep records, it did not dictate the format or content of those records. This is why there are so many variations, or even possibly mistakes, in these records. It is my understanding that sometimes the parish priest, or his assistant (cleric, deacon, etc) did not have time to immediately record info after an event took place. So, for example, if a number of baptisms took place on the same day, he or his assistant might not have gotten around to recording the info for each of the infants baptized on a particular day until several days later. If that was the case, you can understand why you would find errors in these records. The more time that lapsed between the event, and the recording of the event, the better the chance for mistakes.
Also, I've noticed, as have you I'm sure, that sometimes women were recorded under their birth surnames, sometimes mistakenly under their mothers' surnames, and sometimes under the surname of their husbands with no indication of their own surnames. So researching these records can lead to a lot of confusion. But, you have to consider that the individuals who wrote these records never anticipated that some centuries later, people like us, would be combing through these records to learn about our family ancestries. And, if it hadn't been for these mistakes, or variations, we probably would have quit trying to learn about our ancestries many years ago. I've been at this type of research since my younger son needed a small family tree when his 5th grade class was studying immigration. So since 1994!
Have a good day, LInda.
Erudita
When the Council of Trent in the mid 1500s dictated that local parishes had to keep records, it did not dictate the format or content of those records. This is why there are so many variations, or even possibly mistakes, in these records. It is my understanding that sometimes the parish priest, or his assistant (cleric, deacon, etc) did not have time to immediately record info after an event took place. So, for example, if a number of baptisms took place on the same day, he or his assistant might not have gotten around to recording the info for each of the infants baptized on a particular day until several days later. If that was the case, you can understand why you would find errors in these records. The more time that lapsed between the event, and the recording of the event, the better the chance for mistakes.
Also, I've noticed, as have you I'm sure, that sometimes women were recorded under their birth surnames, sometimes mistakenly under their mothers' surnames, and sometimes under the surname of their husbands with no indication of their own surnames. So researching these records can lead to a lot of confusion. But, you have to consider that the individuals who wrote these records never anticipated that some centuries later, people like us, would be combing through these records to learn about our family ancestries. And, if it hadn't been for these mistakes, or variations, we probably would have quit trying to learn about our ancestries many years ago. I've been at this type of research since my younger son needed a small family tree when his 5th grade class was studying immigration. So since 1994!
Have a good day, LInda.
Erudita
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Re: maria vintaloro josephi oliveri
Thanks much.
Lucia was definitely born to Caterina Di Fulco
then somehow she was renamed Crescimanno
Caterina has a whole different heritage but does marry Josephi Crescimanna along the way so maybe he adopted her.
wish adoption records would be an option. LOL
Yes I find lifetime researching is addictive.
I have been interested since i am 12 with pictures of me on a family trip to visit my grandmother's side on my father's side in front of my great grandparents tomb in Chicago.. far from New Orleans. i am going to make 72 this year so that is 60 years of being smitten with the research bug.
It is ever evolving but more precious to me each day. I smile when i read over and over notations on a napkin that my grandfather scribbled for me with my curious inquisitions.
Thanks for sharing
Best
Linda
Lucia was definitely born to Caterina Di Fulco
then somehow she was renamed Crescimanno
Caterina has a whole different heritage but does marry Josephi Crescimanna along the way so maybe he adopted her.
wish adoption records would be an option. LOL
Yes I find lifetime researching is addictive.
I have been interested since i am 12 with pictures of me on a family trip to visit my grandmother's side on my father's side in front of my great grandparents tomb in Chicago.. far from New Orleans. i am going to make 72 this year so that is 60 years of being smitten with the research bug.
It is ever evolving but more precious to me each day. I smile when i read over and over notations on a napkin that my grandfather scribbled for me with my curious inquisitions.
Thanks for sharing
Best
Linda