Request Birth Translation 1895__

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Request Birth Translation 1895__

Maria Antigone --believe she was a Foundling ? or given to a Convent ( Family word of mouth ?
It has taken many years for us to find this birth record-

Birth- most important to have the birth translation
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... =en&i=2648

Marriage--Image 129--# 125
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 17&lang=en


Welcome - Nicholas n' Joan

[erudita74]

Birth record

Dated March 16, 1895

Appearing before the town official was Grazia Piazza, age 34, daughter of deceased Filippo (Piazza), the receiver of foundlings (abandoned infants) of this town. She presented to the town official a baby who was of feminine sex and said she had been found on the wheel which was in the building which housed the former Convent of Francesco. The infant was in diapers of white cloth and of the apparent age of two days. To this baby I have given the surname and name Antigone Maria.

( there are a few minor details in the record that I’m unable to decipher, sorry).

In the margin, there is a statement by a notary that she was recognized as the natural daughter of Maria Cipollina on Feb 16,1913.

[erudita74]

Marriage record

June 28, 1913

Groom: Vincenzo di Lucia, never married, age 26, laborer, born in this town, son of Angelo di Lucia and Rosa Turco, both residents of this town.

Bride: Maria Cipollina, never before married, age 18, born in this town, daughter of unknown father and Maria Cipolllina, resident of this town.

Witnesses: Vincenzo Lo Presti, age 28, laborer, and Antonio Ventura, age 24, laborer, both town residents.

Presented for the marriage was the certificate of publications which were made on the 15th and 22nd of June of the current year. The mother of the bride was present to give her consent.

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Hello erudita74 ,

Most helpful information, now brought together many years of searching for Maria's birth information.

Much appreciated,

Nicholas n' Joan

[AngelaGrace56]

Hi Nicholas n Joan

Well done on these great finds

Have just made some alterations below. I know you both like detail.

Marriage record

June 28, 1913

Groom: Vincenzo di Lucia, never married, age 26, laborer, born in this town, son of Angelo di Lucia and Rosa Turco, both residents of this town.

Bride: Maria Cipollina, never before married, age 18, casalinga, born in this town, daughter of unknown father and Maria Cipollina, resident of this town.

Witnesses: Vincenzo Lo Presti, age 28, laborer, and Antonio Di Ventura, age 24, laborer, both town residents.

Presented for the marriage was the certificate of publications which were made on the 15th and 22nd of June of the current year. The mother of the bride was present to give her consent.

Birth record

Dated March 16, 1895

Appearing before the town official was Grazia Piazza, age 34, daughter of deceased Filippo (Piazza), the receiver of foundlings (abandoned infants) of this town. She presented to the town official a baby who was of feminine sex and said she had been found on the wheel which was in the building which housed the former Convent of San Francesco, at 4 am today, without any mark on the flesh (body) found – this is probably meaning a mark that would later identify the baby... (Often there was something left with the baby like a ribbon, a medal, note or something else to later identify the child – not sure whether that is what they are meaning here. Not seen it worded that way before.The infant was in diapers of white cloth and of the apparent age of two days. To this baby I have given the surname and name Antigone Maria.

( there are a few minor details in the record that I’m unable to decipher, sorry).

In the margin, there is a statement by a notary that she was recognized as the natural daughter of Maria Cipollina on Feb 16,1913.

I couldn't quite catch the other minor details either. The script is quite tricky.

Best to you both.

Angela

[erudita74]

Thanks for the second set of eyes, Angela. After the apparent age of two days, I did see the words for “without any signs.” I was expecting the next word to be the word for “body” and, when it wasn’t, I couldn’t decipher the next word. So I just omitted that phrase from my translation. Yes, this record also doesn’t list any other items which were left with the infant. Those items were always recorded by a town official, and then used as a way to verify parentage, if a natural parent ever returned to reclaim the infant. Also the word custody appears a few lines further down in the record, but I couldn’t decipher what specifically is written after that. Normally a balia or wetnurse was assigned to breastfeed the infant during that time period, but I don’t see any mention of that person within the convent itself, or outside of that facility.

Also I looked for the act of recognition which appears to have been made in 1913, only months before Maria’s marriage, according to the date in the margin of the birth record. Unfortunately, 1913 birth records, which might have had the act in part II of those records, are not online, plus I didn’t see the record among any of the other online records. In acts of recognition, the natural parent(s) appears before the town notary, usually with two witnesses personally known to them, who can verify that person’s identity and to give credence to that person’s account of abandoning the infant.

Yes, the wording in this document was quite tricky, as Angela has appointed out.

Erudita

[erudita74]

Hello erudita74 ,

Most helpful information, now brought together many years of searching for Maria's birth information.

Much appreciated,

Nicholas n' Joan

You’re very welcome.