re: atti di morte antonino labate reggio calabria

[mezzogiorno62]

checking on a death record for antonino labate in reggio calabria. son of paolo. i see an entry here in 1842 for an antonino son of paolo. no.458. but when i go to entry no.458 for that year its not for antonino. the entry on the death index should match the entry in the records. wife grazia ieraca died in 1853 and survived him. how do these entry numbers work? shouldn't they match?

[AngelaGrace56]

Hi there

Can you please post the link to the index you are looking at so that we can make an informed response to your question. Ta.

Angela

[mezzogiorno62]

no idea how to do that. tech is my weak spot. www.antenati website. reggio calabria for the year 1842. i found an entry in the death index for antonino son of paolo. probably my suject as he died between 1827 (birth of son paolo) and 1853 (wife grazia ieraco died in 1853 and survived him).checked every years death index and this is the only antonino son of paolo.

[AngelaGrace56]

This is what you are looking at: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 20/wklaVbr

Okay, so the numbers on the left of the names are just keeping a talley of the records. They are not the Act number. On the far right is the date of the event. Your Antonino Labate died on 15 December 1842, so you need to search by date. It shouldn’t be too hard to find because it will be towards the end of the register. Give it a go, and if you can’t find it get back to me and I will take a look for you.

Angela

[mezzogiorno62]

found it. odd theres no order number for the act. i saw no.458 and it appeared to be the number of the act. thanks very much.

[AngelaGrace56]

Well done you!!! See you can do it. So glad you found it. I found it too. I looked for it because I need to get onto some thing else and was going to post it here for you in case you couldn't find it. I'll post it anyway. It does have an Act Number. The Death Act No 850 (Ignore the No 130). They had to start more registers because of the number of deaths.


Death No 850 (Ignore No 130): Antonino Labbate, husband of Grazia Ieraco/a
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 20/5xPRrpz
Page 431 if 468

You can post to our translations forum if you need it translated. I need to get on to something else now.

Angela

[mezzogiorno62]

thanks very much. found it. odd theres no order number for the act. i saw no.458 and it appeared to be the number of the act. also searching for a possible death record in reggio a calabria as well for 1875. paolo labate (possibly misspelled as paola) son? of domenico and maria labate. i clicked on the italian civil records section which should start with 1866 but it goes to directly to 1908. makes no sense. other than clicking on the italian civil records section how else would one get to the years starting with 1866?

[AngelaGrace56]

thanks very much. found it. odd theres no order number for the act. i saw no.458 and it appeared to be the number of the act. also searching for a possible death record in reggio a calabria as well for 1875. paolo labate (possibly misspelled as paola) son? of domenico and maria labate. i clicked on the italian civil records section which should start with 1866 but it goes to directly to 1908. makes no sense. other than clicking on the italian civil records section how else would one get to the years starting with 1866?

For 1875 deaths you can search here: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/search- ... _is%3A1875

Where were you looking?

Angela

[AngelaGrace56]

thanks very much. found it. odd theres no order number for the act. i saw no.458 and it appeared to be the number of the act.

Where are you seeing No 458?

The Act number is Death No 850:

Is this what you found here:

Death No 850 (Ignore No 130): Antonino Labbate, husband of Grazia Ieraco/a
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 20/5xPRrpz
Page 431 if 468


Angela

[AngelaGrace56]

thanks very much. found it. odd theres no order number for the act. i saw no.458 and it appeared to be the number of the act. also searching for a possible death record in reggio a calabria as well for 1875. paolo labate (possibly misspelled as paola) son? of domenico and maria labate. i clicked on the italian civil records section which should start with 1866 but it goes to directly to 1908. makes no sense. other than clicking on the italian civil records section how else would one get to the years starting with 1866?

For 1875 deaths you can search here: https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/search- ... _is%3A1875

Where were you looking?

Angela

1875 Death No 424: Paolo Labate
Registered Reggio Calabria on 21 June 1875

Appearing were Filippo Sacco, 60 yo, bracciale (day labourer), and Giuseppe Sacco, 33 yo, Calzolaio (cobbler/shoemaker), both living in Reggio Calabria. They reported that at 9.30 am yesterday (20 June 1875) in Villaggio Sbarro, No 56, Paolo Labate, 80 yo, died. He was a Bracciale (day labourer), residing in Reggio Calabria, born in Reggio Calabria, the son of the deceased Domenico, a Bracciale (day labourer) who had lived in Reggio Calabria when living, and of the deceased Maria Labate, a filatrice (spinner), who had lived in this city when living. Paolo Labate was the husband of Maria Pellicano’.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 42/LaqWezb
Page 109 of 212

Yes, Paolo's name was mispelt in the indexing. The indexes are really good though, so I recommend that use them. They will save you so much time as you can just run a search on the name/s you are needing.

Angela

[mezzogiorno62]

i've got pretty good eyesight but at times its pretty hard to read these records. either the handwriting style or the fading and soiled pages.i saw that death record but the wifes surname was pulitano or politano not pellicano. thats what threw me off. if she survived him she must have passed shortly after as she was close to his age according to their marriage record. paolo's labates parents were antonino labate and grazia ieraca. as you know antonino died in 1842 and wife grazia ieraca died in 1853. fortunata labates parents were ironically paolo labate,same name as her husband and maria politano or pulitano. her father paolo died in 1875. now need to find death for her mother maria politano or pulitano. also need to find the death records for paolo labate and wife fortunata labate. i have 3 of the 4 deaths of their parents.but these last 2 may be the hardest. their last known child was orazio born in 1872 when paolo was 45 and fortunata 36 so assuming they lived into their 70s or 80s they may have lived well beyond 1900 as paolo was born in 1827 and fortunata in 1836. i wish there were 10 year death indexes beyond those online. all i see are 1866-1875,1876-1885,and 1886-1895. and paolo and fortunata could have lived beyond those years. thanks for all your help.

[AngelaGrace56]

You are very welcome for the help. At least we were able to find three death records you are searching for. It's just a case of chipping away at the indices looking for the other records. Keep notes of people you see in the indices that may be family members, in case you need to revisit those years in the future.

(I was hopeful that I had found Maria Pellicano's death record in 1876 index but when I located the record she was recorded as "nubile" so not your Maria Pellicano.)

Best to you with this.
Angela