need to affirm back four generations

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Figone/DeVincenzi/De Vincenzi

Frank Figone 1860, wife Maddalena De Vincenzi?
a possible manifest:

Apr 1885 manifest
Name: Magdalena Devincenzi
Arrival Date: 20 Apr 1885
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Age: 18
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: California
Place of Origin: Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Normandie
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 5
Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_485
List Number: 438
Port Arrival State: New York Port
Arrival Country: United States

Traveling with:
not necessarily immediate family
Teresa? 52 (abt 1833)
Antonio 15 (abt 1870)
Giov B? 11 (abt 1874)
Nicolo 4 (abt 1881)
---

Possibly the same family that was traveling
with Maddelena.
Note there is a Figone family on the same street
on this census page…
Could be a coincidence, perhaps folks from Genoa
settling in the same neighborhood

possibly related 1900 census
Home in 1900:
36 Fargo Place
San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Head Turone?? Devincenzi 33 (Dec 1866)
- single
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs, Al
Brother Antonio Devincenzi 30 (Jul 1869)
- married 2 yrs (abt 1898)
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs, Na
Sister-in-law Amelia A Devincenzi 20
Nephew Joseph Devincenzi 1 CA
Mother Theresa Devincenzi 70 (May 1830)
- widow
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs
- 3 children born, 3 children living
(note: this question was often answered incorrectly)
Brother Louis Devincenzi 19 (Apr 1881)
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs

note: Louis in 1900 may be Nicolo on the
1885 manifest

1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
Name: Louis Nicholas Devincenzi
City: San Francisco County: San Francisco State: California
Birth Date: 5 Feb 1880

1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
Name: Louis Nicholas Devincenzi
Birth Date: 5 Feb 1882
Residence: SF, California
Birth: Italy

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Thanks to all for the wonderful research, especially finding the city of birth of my ggg grandfather!

Did anyone find the year of naturalization for Frank Figoni (birth year - 1860) on the 1920 census? The one I found shows it to be 1913. Can anyone confirm this, because the 1908 manifest states he is a U.S. citizen?
I'm in touch with the NARA, so maybe this will turn up something as well.

Also, is Figoni essentially the same name as Figone, just a spelling variant? Based on the link provided, the Figone version looks more common. Figoni was not listed on the top 10 names for that region, although Figone was.

Thanks everyone!

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For reference:
Is this a census record for your family?

1900 census
Home in 1900:
1246 62nd Avenue
Oakland, Alameda, California
Head Frank Figoni 40 (Jan 1860)
- married 14 yrs (abt 1886)
Note: married in CA?
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs, Pa (filed 1st papers)
Note no naturalization record found on footnote.com
Wife Mary Figoni 31 (May 1869)
- 8 children born, 5 children living
- immig 1885, in US 15yrs
Note: children all born in CA
Daughter Virginia Figoni 14 (May 1886)
Son Louis Figoni 11 (Jun 1888)
Son Tony Figoni 7 (Dec 1892)
Son Frank Figoni 6 (Sep 1893)
Son Albert Figoni 2 (Aug 1897)
boarder Jovanio Besitio 30

Good work. Without my grandfather's birth certificate I cannot be 100% sure, but I am nearly positive that you have found the correct family. My grandfather and father and brother are all named Frank Louis Figone. I assume the given name Frank comes from Frank Sr. born in 1835/Frank Jr. born in 1860 (Italy), and the middle name Louis, from Frank Jr.'s son, born in 1888 (Calif.), as shown above.

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For reference:
Is this a census record for your family?

1900 census
Home in 1900:
1246 62nd Avenue
Oakland, Alameda, California
Head Frank Figoni 40 (Jan 1860)
- married 14 yrs (abt 1886)
Note: married in CA?
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs, Pa (filed 1st papers)
Note no naturalization record found on footnote.com
Wife Mary Figoni 31 (May 1869)
- 8 children born, 5 children living
- immig 1885, in US 15yrs
Note: children all born in CA
Daughter Virginia Figoni 14 (May 1886)
Son Louis Figoni 11 (Jun 1888)
Son Tony Figoni 7 (Dec 1892)
Son Frank Figoni 6 (Sep 1893)
Son Albert Figoni 2 (Aug 1897)
boarder Jovanio Besitio 30

Good work. Without my grandfather's birth certificate I cannot be 100% sure, but I am nearly positive that you have found the correct family. My grandfather and father and brother are all named Frank Louis Figone. I assume the given name Frank comes from Frank Sr. born in 1835/Frank Jr. born in 1860 (Italy), and the middle name Louis, from Frank Jr.'s son, born in 1888 (Calif.), as shown above.

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From Ancestry.com :

However the Figone surname is common in my region especially in La Spezia and Genoa Province
LIGURIA REGION:
Comuni nei quali è presente il cognome "figone" : 18 su 235.


63,36 Varese Ligure La Spezia
35,85 Casarza Ligure Genova
34,56 Chiavari Genova
29,25 Genova Genova
21,30 Lavagna Genova
13,50 Sestri Levante Genova
5,82 Sesta Godano La Spezia
4,20 Castiglione Chiavarese Genova
3,90 Borzonasca Genova
3,84 Carro La Spezia
2,28 Imperia Imperia
2,26 La Spezia La Spezia
2,19 San Remo Imperia
2,15 Savona Savona
2,07 Rapallo Genova
1,84 Rezzoaglio Genova
1,83 Giusvalla Savona
1,77 Maissana La Spezia

There are Figone's in Piedmont region (but less than in Liguria)

Laura

Thank you Laura Unfortunately, I'm not sure what the numbers mean 18 su 235, or 63.36, or what for example the first part "Varese Ligure" La Spezia represents. Is there a meaningful difference between "Figone" and "Figoni". I do not understand why my great-great grandfather would have changed the spelling from Figoni to Figone. Thank you again.

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RIZZO

As Biff pointed out, the possibly related Rizzo family
from the 1910 Figone census and wldspirit's birth record
find
- same address as Louis & Mary Figone
Mary Figone’s family (same immigration year)?

edit: added link to 1910 census from above
1910 census
Home in 1910:
1244 62nd St, rents house
Oakland Ward 1, Alameda, California
head Pietre Rizzo 44 (abt 1866) IT
- married 1 yrs (abt 1893) IT
- immig 1905 Al
wife Sylva Rizzo 35 (abt 1875) IT
- 5 children born, 5 children living
- immig 1907
son Joseph Rizzo 18 (abt 1892) IT
- immig 1907
daughter Josephine Rizzo 9 (abt 1901) IT
- immig 1907
son John Rizzo 7 (abt 1903) IT
- immig 1907
daughter Antonette Rizzo 2/12 (abt 1909) CA

possible maiden name?
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
Name: Antoinet V Rizzo
Birth Date: 2 Aug 1909
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Villa
Birth County: Alameda

My great-grandfather Louis appears to have moved in with the Rizzo's after having married their daughter, Mary Rizzo. I think I have enough evidence to link the family through to Francesco (Frank) Figoni Sr. born 1835, my great-great-great grandfather. Frank Figoni Jr. (abt 1860) is father to Louis. Mary and Louis have two boys: my grandfather Frank Louis Figone (Oct 1910), and Edward, who is four years younger. The 1920 census of my grandfather shows him living with a different father, Jack Grosso, and the 1930 census, yet another father, George Sutro, apparently Mary's third husband. After the 1910 census, my great-grandfather Louis disappears. I wonder if he dies young rather than it being a divorce situation. Can someone verify this? I haven't been able to. Thanks very much.

[pink67]

Ciao!

I'm happy that my intuition was right.... I was pretty sure because I know that FigonE last name is really very common in Varese Ligure (as the last name DE VINCENZI)...
There are no FIGONI in Varese L.

http://www.comune.vareseligure.sp.it/index.asp

the number 18 on 235 it means that in 235 Communes of Liguria region you can find the last name Figone in 18 of these communes....

There are in Varese Ligure
83.16 persons with the last name: De Vincenzi
71.28 persons with the last name:Gotelli
63.36 persons with the last name:Figone
45.54 persons with the last name:De Paoli
35.64 persons with the last name:Pietronave

I don't know what kind of dates this site use to determine these statistics but I know that the result is real.....

Have you checked this forum searching Figone last name? I saw right now that there were others persons searching the same last name....
I rembember someone posted also the name of a clerk (a woman) working in the Comune of Varese Ligure that was very kind with a search of civil acts for a member ... but now I'm not able to find this message....
I'll try later....
Ciao!
Laura

[pink67]

Here you can find the message I remember... it was on the Ancestry.com Community....

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.w ... .1/mb.ashx

Laura

[vj]

From the San Francisco Genealogy site

Biographies: 1857-1911
Deaths: 1857-1911 CGS Names Index, 1857—1911
(more info requires a fee for the California Genealogical Society)
Index of various resources including:
Biographies.
San Francisco IOOF Crematorium between 1895 and 1911.
Includes some disinterments from as early as 1857.
Early San Francisco death records 1865-1905.
San Francisco residents in late 19th century.
Order form and their searchable database is available on their website
On front page left menu, look under "Names Lookup"

This is an index of a wide variety of state, county, and local references put together
by the California Genealogical Society (CGS) and reprinted here by permission.
For a fee, you can request a copy of the record of the information they have from
them for each name index entry

Figone, Antonio, b. ITA 1865, FRAN
Figone, David, b. ITA 1854, FRAN
Figone, Francisco, b. ITA 1860, FRAN
Figone, Giovanini, b. ITA 1852, FRAN
Figone, Giovanni, b. ITA 1853, FRAN
Figone, Luigi, b. ITA 1868, FRAN
Figoni, Luigi, b. ITA 1850, FRAN

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For reference:
Is this a census record for your family?

1900 census
Home in 1900:
1246 62nd Avenue
Oakland, Alameda, California
Head Frank Figoni 40 (Jan 1860)
- married 14 yrs (abt 1886)
Note: married in CA?
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs, Pa (filed 1st papers)
Note no naturalization record found on footnote.com
Wife Mary Figoni 31 (May 1869)
- 8 children born, 5 children living
- immig 1885, in US 15yrs
Note: children all born in CA
Daughter Virginia Figoni 14 (May 1886)
Son Louis Figoni 11 (Jun 1888)
Son Tony Figoni 7 (Dec 1892)
Son Frank Figoni 6 (Sep 1893)
Son Albert Figoni 2 (Aug 1897)
boarder Jovanio Besitio 30

I'm in the process of requesting a copy of my great-grandfather Louis' birth certificate, but I need to find this mother Mary's maiden name. Could you locate this for me please? Thank you very much.

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Please disregard my previous post You guys are so fast and thorough that there was just too much data for me all at once. Anyway, I found the name: Magdalena De Vincenzi. Grazie!

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Figone/DeVincenzi/De Vincenzi

Frank Figone 1860, wife Maddalena De Vincenzi?
a possible manifest:

Apr 1885 manifest
Name: Magdalena Devincenzi
Arrival Date: 20 Apr 1885
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Age: 18
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: California
Place of Origin: Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Normandie
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 5
Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_485
List Number: 438
Port Arrival State: New York Port
Arrival Country: United States

Traveling with:
not necessarily immediate family
Teresa? 52 (abt 1833)
Antonio 15 (abt 1870)
Giov B? 11 (abt 1874)
Nicolo 4 (abt 1881)
---

Possibly the same family that was traveling
with Maddelena.
Note there is a Figone family on the same street
on this census page…
Could be a coincidence, perhaps folks from Genoa
settling in the same neighborhood

possibly related 1900 census
Home in 1900:
36 Fargo Place
San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Head Turone?? Devincenzi 33 (Dec 1866)
- single
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs, Al
Brother Antonio Devincenzi 30 (Jul 1869)
- married 2 yrs (abt 1898)
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs, Na
Sister-in-law Amelia A Devincenzi 20
Nephew Joseph Devincenzi 1 CA
Mother Theresa Devincenzi 70 (May 1830)
- widow
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs
- 3 children born, 3 children living
(note: this question was often answered incorrectly)
Brother Louis Devincenzi 19 (Apr 1881)
- immig 1884, in US 16 yrs

note: Louis in 1900 may be Nicolo on the
1885 manifest

1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
Name: Louis Nicholas Devincenzi
City: San Francisco County: San Francisco State: California
Birth Date: 5 Feb 1880

1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
Name: Louis Nicholas Devincenzi
Birth Date: 5 Feb 1882
Residence: SF, California
Birth: Italy

Hello VJ, Thanks for all your help up to this point. I haven't been able to find the manifest/passenger list (he arrived 1884-ish) for Frank Figone. You were able to find the one for his eventual wife, so I was wondering if you might be able to find the one for him as well. Chances are he embarked from Genoa and landed in New York. Thank you!

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Here is a possible lead:

http://213.212.128.168/radici/ie/defaultie_e.htm

The year of arrival doesn't match the census, but it's worth following up on.

Many thanks for everybody's help!

[pink67]

From Ancestry.com :

Name: Francisca Figone
Arrival Date: 30 Mar 1882
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Canada
Search Ship Database: Search the Canada in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 44
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_448
List Number: 371
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United State

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Don't you think this one could be your Frank Figone??

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Ciao Laura! It is the closest match to the census data, and the one I was considering. So for now he is the number one candidate. According to census data, however, my gggf was born Jan 1860 and immigrated in 1884/1885, but there is no one on the passenger lists so far who matches. I am going to do some research today at the LDS Family History Center today; maybe that will shed some light as well. Grazie.