Looking for information about the Canarelli & Trolla fam

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actually never mind - is it possible he came in 1900 - went back and came back in 1903?

[vj]

actually never mind - is it possible he came in 1900 - went back and came back in 1903?

You bet!
Actually it was pretty common for men to send for their wives, usually after earning enough money in the US.
Some men went back to marry, some went back to bring their wives and children to the US.
In many cases folks traveled back and forth several times - the manifest often indicates if they were in the US before.

Note: the 130 Baxter address from Giuseppe & his family's manifest page in Oct 1903 is identified on Sabatina Sanfilippo's page as Nicolo Canarelli's address.

Valarie

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Thanks valerie - your really a great help - im still a bit confused but overall i think i get it now, it was just confusing that he came twice, but i get it, thanks!

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I get alot of this but help mw clear this up - who was the francesco mineo that came with sabatina. It seems weird that giuseppe's niece or servant would travel to america with francesca's ex-in-law - im so confused how sabatina would be related. Also if Giuseppe came with francesca and maria in 1903, how was their daughter sadie born in italy? - I don't know - this is really confusing me. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[vj]

... who was the francesco mineo that came with sabatina. It seems weird that giuseppe's niece or servant would travel to america with francesca's ex-in-law ...

That's a tough one, I think if Francesco were related the relationship would have been stated on the manifest. Coming from the same town it would be possible that he had the same surname as Francesca's 1st husband but not be 'closely' related.

... if Giuseppe came with francesca and maria in 1903, how was their daughter sadie born in italy? ...

Best guess:
Maria from the 1903 manifest and Sadie from the 1910 census are the same person. Maria was probably her 1st name, Sadie was a nickname for her 2nd name. Note: since wife Francesca on the 1910 census indicated she was married twice, she would probably be Francesca's daughter from her 1st marriage.
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If you're interested we can help direct you on how you can research your family's records in Agira.

Valarie

[vj]

Franceco Mineo
another clue, the page before Sabatina Sanfilippo's line off

1 Oct 1903 manifest
lined off (did not sail)
Franceco Mineo 24
joining uncle Giuseppe Canarelli at 130 Baxter Street

[NCJE2910]

Thanks that clears alot up - and yes i'd like to know how to research the records in Agira.

[vj]

Please excuse the length of this post, I didn't want to leave anything out, Valarie

Your nearest Family History Center has records for Agira, Enna on microfilm.
Most folks conduct their research in the Civil Registration records.
The cost is about $6 mo (rent), you’ll need to go to the center to order & view them.

film notes for Agira Civil Records

Topic:
Italy, Enna, Agira - Civil Registration

Titles:
Registri dello stato civile, 1820-1902 Agira (Catania).
Ufficio dello stato civile
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film notes for Agira Church Records

Topic:
Italy, Enna, Agira - Church records

Titles:
Registri ecclesiastici di Agira (Enna), 1579-1910 Chiesa cattolica. San Pietro Apostolo (Agira, Enna)
Registri ecclesiastici, 1560-1916 Chiesa cattolica. Santa Margherita Vergine Martire (Agira)
Registri ecclesiastici, 1565-1911 Chiesa cattolica. Santissimo Salvatore (Agira, Enna)
Registri ecclesiastici, 1566-1910 Chiesa cattolica. Santa Maria Maggiore (Agira, Enna)
Registri ecclesiastici, 1795-1910 Chiesa cattolica. San Antonio di Padova (Agira, Enna)
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film notes for Agira Census Records

Topic:
Italy, Enna, Agira - Census

Titles:
Riveli di beni e anime, San FIlippo d'Agira (Enna), 1811-1815 Sicilia. Deputazioni del Regno
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from the Family History Library Catalog:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp
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In case you aren’t familiar with the Family History Center & Italian records

FamilySearch Home Page
Includes how to find your nearest local Family History Center
These centers are usually staffed with very helpful folks
You'll want to call first to verify the hours that they're open.

A helpful essay written by Trish, one of our forum members:
Steps for Finding Microfilm at the Family History Center
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Italian Record Research from FamilySearch guides:
Italy Research Outline
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Also from FamilySearch (PDF format)
Italian Records Extraction - An Instructional Guide
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Three terrific books to help you find, read & understand your records:

Italian Genealogical Records
How to Use Italian Civil, Ecclesiastical, &
Other Records in Family History Research
By Tafford R Cole
google book link

A Genealogist’s Guide to
Discovering Your Italian Ancestors
How to find and record your unique heritage
By Lynn Nelson
google book link

Finding Italian Roots
By John Philip Colletta, PhD
google book link

[vj]

You can also write to Agira for one or two key records to assure yourself you're following the correct family when you recieve your microfilm

Research in Agira by writing to the comune:

Italian form letter generator with instructions:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Address:

Comune di Agira
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via Vittorio Emanuele 372
94011 Agira EN
ITALY
http://www.nonsolocap.it/sicilia/75-agira/

Website for finding comune addresses:
http://www.nonsolocap.it/

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Thanks for the info and resources, I'm gonna write to Agira soon and try to go to the family research center soon too. I was wondering if there was any naturalization records for any of the brothers or sister: like Francesco, Giuseppe, Antonio, or Maria? Thank you so much in advance, and Valerie you've been such a big help I cant thank you enough.

[vj]

Hello!
You're very welcome

I checked for naturalization records, but only found Nicolo's
Here's the link to finding online records:
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/naturalization.html

Giuseppe's passport did have his naturalization information on it - but it wasn't on footnote. com
The NY archives should be able to provide a copy:

- form for request: http://www.italiangen.org/Naturalizatio ... enSite.pdf
- or online: https://eservices.archives.gov/orderonl ... 1249688682
(I've ordered records both ways)

Valarie

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Well I couldn't do the Agira stuff yet because the office isnt open until Wed, Fri, & Sat here; but I found an ellis island record for a gaetano canarelli. Does anyone think its possible this is nicolo's (my nicolo) brother?

[NCJE2910]

thanks for all the info guys, can anyone help me with some info on Nicolo's children: Gertrude, Rose, Louis, Carmine, Frank, Peter, & Genevieve?

[catalinarb]

Hi Nick,
I'll check dad's Bible to see if any info on the aunts & uncles; Gertrude married James Anderton, Rose married Barrett Seligman, Louis moved to Florida and Terri has met his grandchildren: Brad and Brett, I believe; Carmine was our Grandfather of course; Genevieve was known to me as Aunt Jean; Dad kept in touch with Peter's son, also named Peter and I met him once while visiting Dad in Vegas. Hopefully I can get to this over the weekend

[catalinarb]

Nick, I checked dad's bible and the only information is from Andrea & Jane's marriages, children's birthdates, ... Nothing from the past