Vito Nunzio Natale

[peterjschroeder]

Hello. I am searching for the parents or siblings of

Vito Nunzio Natale
Born 12/25/1891
Died: 1/20/1937

And his spouse

Antonette Baratta
Born: 12/22/1892
Died: 2/31/1966

They had 12 children

Rose, Louis, Mary, Angie, Tony, Santa, Annie, Mike, Rosario, Joe, Rose, and Carmella

My Mother tells me, they came over from Italy separately and were married in the USA (which i cant find a record of). Supposedly Antonette was dropped off in an orphanage by her father, which might of been in Chicago.
Any help would be appreciated.

[suanj]

maybe this could be the ship's manifest of your Vito ( father Vito in Santeramo) final destination Chicago; joining at Raffaele Severino friend in Chicago):



New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Vito Nunzio Natale
Name: Vito Nunzio Natale
Arrival Date: 3 Mar 1911
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Celtic
Search Ship Database: View the Celtic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 28
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1634
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: santerano (SANTERAMO)
Page Number: 121

abt Antonietta Baratta, the only imm. record found is abt:
Ant. ( Antonia/Antonietta)Baratta age 5 in 1897, imm. 24 Feb 1897, travelling with mother Cristina Santucci ( age 43) and the sister Palma Baratta ( age 10) coming from San Giuliano nel Sannio, final destination Cleveland, Ohio... no more details....

http://ellisisland.org/search/passRecor ... d=0&RF=19Ã

[peterjschroeder]

Yes that is Vito, ive seen that record already. He came over alone tho, so it doesnt help finding his parents or siblings. Now that Baratta. That could be her, dates are right. Thanks.

[wldspirit]

Possible record:


Record Details for Volume 170

Page Number: 484
Declaration Number: 83584

FIRST NAME LAST NAME OCCUPATION
VITO NATALE LABORER

BIRTH CITY BIRTH COUNTRY BIRTH DATE
BITRITTO ITALY 3/19/1890

CURRENT ADDRESS CURRENT CITY
4449 S. SPAULDING AVE CHICAGO

DEPARTURE LOCATION ARRIVAL DATE DECLARATION DATE
NAPLES, ITALY 3/28/1907 3/8/1918

wldspirit

[peterjschroeder]

Could be. What source is that from? Doesnt help much, but hey more sources the better I have just about everyone from him down, just not up. Be much easier of the Italian Census was online

I found that Christina Santucci spouse was Carmen Baratta. Now to figure out who Christina and Carmens parents are.

Anyone know how to spell Christina in Italian?

[pink67]

Hi Peter,

from :
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... t.html#p=0

the marriage record for Nunzio Natale and Antonina Barretta :

Grrom name: Nunzio Natalo
Age: 24
Groom birth place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Bride name: Antonina Barretta
Age: 23
Bride birth place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Marriage date: May 8, 1915


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Laura

[wldspirit]

There are two sites of interest:

Naturalization

Birth, Marriage and Death

Both sites have free access to indexes.

wldspirit

[peterjschroeder]

That marriage record seems to fit, but i wonder why it says they were both born in Chicago.

Been threw those Chicago records already.

[wldspirit]

Census states Italy, but can be notoriously wrong. Name is mistranscribed
and on actual census clearly states Nunzio. Also states immigration as 1913
for both.

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Mangai Natale
[Manzai Natalo]
Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 19, Cook (Chicago), Illinois
Age: 26 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Antonetta
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1913
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Image: 418

Household Members: Name Age
Mangai Natale 26
Antonetta Natale 26
Rose Natale 3
Loui Natale 2
Mary Natale 3/12

Have you sent for the death records? May list parents name, and place of birth.
Would also send for naturalization record.

wldspirit

[peterjschroeder]

Ya i have that source already too That was one of the worst transcriptions i came across

Hmm nope havent sent for death records, i? still in the spend no money phase of my research Everything i have assembled so far comes from online trees, and free ancestry.com account threw my libraries site.

[pink67]

Possible 1900 census (in case you don't have it... )


1900 United States Federal Census
about Carminy Daratto
Name: Carminy Daratto
[Carmeny Daratto]
Home in 1900: Cleveland Ward 1, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Age: 44
Birth Date: May 1856
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Immigration Year: 1893
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Christina
Marriage Year: 1882
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 18
Residence : Cleveland City, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Carminy Daratto 44 head
Christina Daratto 44 wife
Mary Daratto 16 daughter
Antonia Daratto 9 daughter
Antonio Ruscito 30 boarder
Michael Dicoccio 31 boarder
Donato Murzvilli 27 boarder

they were living near a Santucci Family... maybe Cristina's relatives?

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Laura

[pink67]

This is the Santucci Family living near the Baratta family in 1900:

1900 United States Federal Census
about Nicholas Sanducci
Name: Nicholas Sanducci
[Nichola Sanducci]
Home in 1900: Cleveland Ward 1, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Age: 37
Birth Date: May 1863
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Immigration Year: 1893
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name: Marie J
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Lucia
Marriage Year: 1885
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 15
Residence : Cleveland City, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Sanducci 37 head
Lucia Sanducci 33 wife
John Sanducci 10 son
Josephine Sanducci 3 daughter
Marie J Sanducci 70 mother (5 child, 2 living)

found also the death certificate for Nicola Santucci, lists his mother as Maria Giuseppa Colapaula (perhaps not the right surname spell... )

here is:

Death date: November 3, 1951:

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Laura

[peterjschroeder]

Awesome. Because i just found out Maria Guiseppa NICOLAPAOLO is also Christina's mother Her father is Giovanniantonio SANTUCCI. So Nicolas must be her brother. Where did you find the death certificate?

[pink67]

From the same site where I found the marriage certificate for Antonietta and Nunzio:

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... t.html#p=0

Laura

[peterjschroeder]

Ah k. Thanks. Just noticed you linked it on the bottom of your post

Just noticed you said Colapaula not NICOLAPAOLO Maybe she got remarried to Giovanniantonio's brother (if he had one) as she also died in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio.