Russo,Magazu,m Sajia, from Bauso pre 1858

[Joe4322]

Looking for information on my GF's side. His name was Giovanni. His father was Giuseppe, and that's all I know.

My GM's name was Rosa Zopinna? Any in formation on any name would be appreciated. I have received some information a long time ago, but I have hit a wall.

Thank you

Joe

[suanj]

I found
Giovanni Russo born on 28 jul 1858 in Bauso( current name :Villafranca Tirrena, Messina province, Sicily, IT) son of Giuseppe Russo 38 old, farmhand, and of Antonia Magagni 36 old

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0
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hoping helpful,
suanj

[suanj]

Joe, I don't understand "Magazu, m Saja" you can explain abt these words? They are surnames or what?
suanj

[Joe4322]

Good evening, suani,

Did you receive my reply? I am not sure if I sent it correctly. If I don't see a reply, I will write it again.

Thank you

Joe

[suanj]

I don't see any reply, if you can write it again is better...
thanks,
suanj

[Joe4322]

Good morning suanj,

Thank you so very much for your help. I really appreciate it. I will try to be more clear.

1. The (m) was a typing mistake.

2. The names are surnames of my ancestors, (so I thought).

3. My grandfather was Giovanni Russo, birth date was July, 1858. His father was Giuseppe Russo, and his mother was Antonia Magazu, (so I thought). You say that his mother was Antonia Magagni. This opens a new path. Maybe Magazu was read wrong, so the surnames of Magazu and Sajia are wrong.

4. I reached a dead end at my great grandfather (Giuseppe Russo) and my grandmother (Rosa Zopinna). So now I have to explore Antonia Magagni.

Thank you again saunj.

Joe Russo

[Tessa78]

Following suanj's find - and using Antonina's age in the record...

Here is the birth of Antonia Magazzù in 1823
#9
Dated 15 February 1823 in Bauso.
Father: Mariano Magazzù, 40, laborer residing in the town at Strada Contara.
Mother: Antonina Sajia (spelled Saja in the index), his legitimate wife, 39, residing with him
Child was born on the 14th at 1 PM at home, and given the name Antonia.
Baptism on the 15th at the Parish of Santo Nicolo'

Here are the names as written in the index...
#9
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

T.

[suanj]

Thanks Tessa,
I read the Magagni instead of Magazzù, and to be honest, I read Magagni also on the Birth index, but on the Birth record seeming right Magazzù, and really it is the first time that I ear this surname, never knew abt it....
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Sajia is a knew name, but with Magazu word seemed a bit strange to me... Instead is right: Magazzù and Sajia, parents of Antonia, very well! make sense!
well Joe, Thessa solved the spelling of Antonia maiden name ... thanks a lot,
suanj

[Tessa78]

Hi suanj

Yes, I also thought the surname was Magagni - and transcribed that way when first translating the birth act.
It appears that the surname Magazzù is common in the comune of Messina.
I have searched for a marriage for Giuseppe Russo and Antonia Magazzù in Bauso (many years are missing) and also for other births to the couple, without success.

Also, here is the birth act for Antonia Magazzù. I inadvertently forgot to post the link

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

T.

[Joe4322]

Good afternoon suanj and Tessa,

Many thanks to both of you. That clears that up about Magazzu and Magagni. So now I know which direction to take.

Unfortunately, I am still at a loss for my great grandfather and grandmother. Maybe I will check Messina as you mentioned.

I will have a post for my mother's side shortly. I was mainly concerned about my father's side first.

Thank you both again. You are special people.

Joe Russo

[Tessa78]

Hi Joe,

FYI - I do not find the surname Zopinna in Sicily - HOWEVER, the surname Zopinni exists in Comune of Messina.
Were Giovanni Russo and Rosa Zopinna/i married in Italy?

T.

[carubia]

Magazzù is/was found in western Sicily as well, such as Cattolica Eraclea. Sajia is just another way of writing Saiia, since a "j" in Italian was the same letter as "i." You tend to see "j" used when it follows an "a," such as in names Raja (Raia), Bajamonte (Baiamonte), and Trajna (Traina).

[Joe4322]

Thank you Tessa and carubia,

Any information is always helpful. I will look in to Messina for my grandmother's name. Sometimes the records are difficult to read.

Yes Tessa, I would assume my grandparents were married in Bauso. When I was in Sicily, and asked my cousins about them. They did not have too much information. While I was there, they took me to their grave site. That was interesting. They had their photos on top of the marble.

Thank you both again.

Joe Russo

[leablack123]

MAriantonia And Francesco Magazzu were my great grandparents. They were both born in Cattolica Eraclea. There is a very strong line of Magazzu in Cattolica