Looking for birth certificates
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Rick Berni
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Looking for birth certificates
Hello all, I am hoping that someone can find the birth certificates for 2 men that I mentioned in an earlier post.One is Carlo Fidani born in either Civitanova or Porto San Giorgio Marche, in 1895. The other is Libero Mercanti born in Civitanova or Porto San Giorgio as well. We have no birth date for Libero but believe it was between 1895-1900.
The feeling is that the mothers of these 2 men are sisters. If this is true, then when have found the connection we are looking for. Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated.
Rick
The feeling is that the mothers of these 2 men are sisters. If this is true, then when have found the connection we are looking for. Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated.
Rick
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darkerhorse
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Re: Looking for birth certificates
Was Carlo Fidani's mother called Elisabetta Cionfrini?
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Rick Berni
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I don't know. I am hoping that Carlo's mother and Libero Mercanti's mother are sisters. Carlo had 2 brothers that I know of, Rinaldo and Antonio but I don't know when they were born. I hope this helps. Thanks for checking into things for me darkerhorse. I appreciate it.
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darkerhorse
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This could be him on line 12.
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darkerhorse
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Mother is Elisabetta Cionfrini residing in Porto Civitanova.
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Joining cousin Pasquale Benedetto in Hamilton, Canada.
He's traveling with his wife Elisabetta Micucci whose father was Mariano residing in Porto Civitanova.
He's traveling with his wife Elisabetta Micucci whose father was Mariano residing in Porto Civitanova.
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Rick Berni
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That is great darkerhorse, thank you. If Libero Mercanti's mother's surname is Cionfrini then We can confirm the relationship between Carlo and Libero. Thanks again for your help.
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I couldn't find any records for Libero Mercanti.
Maybe someone with better (paid) access to genealogy websites can.
It doesn't look like many records are available online for Porto Civitanova. I don't know about Brazil.
Maybe someone with better (paid) access to genealogy websites can.
It doesn't look like many records are available online for Porto Civitanova. I don't know about Brazil.
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Have not yet found Carlo and LIbero - but have been looking for a possible relationship between the Fidani and Mercanti families.
You mention above a possible mother's name for Carlo - Elisabetta Cionfrini.
Here is a birth act from Cittanova Marche in 1897. Birth of Rinaldo Fidani, son of Rinaldo Fidani (a seaman) and Elisa Cionfrini, residing in Porto. You may want to keep this as a possible connection...
#110
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043838
EDIT TO ADD:
Here is the birth act of Carlo Fidani in 1894 September in Cittanova Marche
He is the son of Rinaldo Fidani, a seaman; and Elisa Cionfrini.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043838
T.
You mention above a possible mother's name for Carlo - Elisabetta Cionfrini.
Here is a birth act from Cittanova Marche in 1897. Birth of Rinaldo Fidani, son of Rinaldo Fidani (a seaman) and Elisa Cionfrini, residing in Porto. You may want to keep this as a possible connection...
#110
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043838
EDIT TO ADD:
Here is the birth act of Carlo Fidani in 1894 September in Cittanova Marche
He is the son of Rinaldo Fidani, a seaman; and Elisa Cionfrini.
#140
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043838
T.
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Rick Berni
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Great find Tessa. Rinaldo is also the name of Carlo's brother. So this makes sense, that a son is named after the father. The brother Rinaldo eventually came to Toronto as well. Thanks so much for finding this Tessa.
Rick
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Happy to help!
I added Carlo's birth act above.
Continuing...
Here is the marriage of Rinaldo Fidani and Elisabetta Ciunfrini Tarquini in 1875 in Cittanova Marche.
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Rinaldo is the son of Antonio Fidani and Carolina Paolucci. He is a seaman, age 26.
Elisabetta is the daughter of deceased Vincenzo, and of living Pelligrina Teresa Tolozzi(sp?) She is a spinner, age 22.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043838
T.
I added Carlo's birth act above.
Continuing...
Here is the marriage of Rinaldo Fidani and Elisabetta Ciunfrini Tarquini in 1875 in Cittanova Marche.
#25
Rinaldo is the son of Antonio Fidani and Carolina Paolucci. He is a seaman, age 26.
Elisabetta is the daughter of deceased Vincenzo, and of living Pelligrina Teresa Tolozzi(sp?) She is a spinner, age 22.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043838
T.
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Rick Berni
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Wow! As always, thanks so much Tessa. You never cease to amaze me.
Rick
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Attachments to marriage of Rinaldo and Elisabetta.
3 docs: certificate of publication with no opposition, and the extracts of births for the spouses. Rinaldo born January 1848; Elisabetta born June 1852.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043838
T.
3 docs: certificate of publication with no opposition, and the extracts of births for the spouses. Rinaldo born January 1848; Elisabetta born June 1852.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043838
T.
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Rick Berni
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Thanks for these Tessa. You know, there are no Fidanis and very few Mercantis in Civitanova now as far as the phone directory is concerned. There seem to be more of both families in Buenos Aires.How reliable are family tree inputs on Family Search Tessa.
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Remember that the phone directory is for landlines only. So there may be more residents with the surnames than you think.
Here is the distribution of Mercanti in Marche more recently...
https://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cogno ... arche.html
And distribution of Fidani (which was not very common in 1800s based on what I saw in the indices for births)
https://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cogno ... arche.html
Family trees can be inaccurate. You must verify entries independently. However, they can sometimes provide leads.
T.
Here is the distribution of Mercanti in Marche more recently...
https://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cogno ... arche.html
And distribution of Fidani (which was not very common in 1800s based on what I saw in the indices for births)
https://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cogno ... arche.html
Family trees can be inaccurate. You must verify entries independently. However, they can sometimes provide leads.
T.